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Postby Neptune24 » Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:02 am

Hi Guys,

I am looking to build a new computer, well most of it anyway. And as there are few "fanboys" on this forum where better to ask??

So i stumbled across this website that allows a build and even checks for compatibillity.

So AMD build
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Mossiac/saved/2K63

And Intel build
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Mossiac/saved/2K6B

A few notes.
I don't need RAM as my current RAM is compatible with both builds.
I don't nee a new case as I like the one I have.
I am not sure on the PSU. I don't really want to pay that much for one. Somewhere around £50 is what I am aiming for, but still fully modular.
I am thinking of a new GPU but not sure which to get.
I would also like a PC that I don't have to upgrade again in a year or two.

The PC I have at the mo can be seen in the signiture.

I tend to use my PC for playing games like DOW and Sims 3 - (soon the be Sims 4(and it's not my game but my girlfriend)

Thanks in advanced for any help.

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Re: New PC

Postby DJ Tucker » Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:02 am

if your not planning on playing anything more than DoW, sims 3 and 4 then you current rig is fine tbh. However, if you really want to upgrade i would go with the intel build as the cpu is around 10-15% better in games and consumes less power saving money in the long run. As for the psu that's a great psu. Finding a psu fully modular for £50, that ain't gonna happen. In fact 600 watts is enough for your system but that Corsair PSU is an awesome price, so i would stick with that psu in case you plan to add another GPU in the future. If you are looking to upgrade your gpu then i would get gtx 660 for £120-£130 as the performance is much better than your gtx 550 ti in fact the gtx 650 ti beats the gtx 550 ti easily but wouldn't be as greater upgrade. Well, thats just my 2 cents :)
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Re: New PC

Postby Neptune24 » Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:42 am

Yes I have had the same sort of reaction elsewhere, but the processor is no where near what it used to be performance wise.

I'm not sure if I will get a new GPU yet. I will wait and see how it does with the new PC.

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Re: New PC

Postby Major_A » Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:00 pm

If you buy either build your GPU won't be bottlenecked and you'll definitely get better frame rates. As for the builds I say either one will be a noticeable improvement over what you have now. If you aren't planing on overclocking then I'd say get the Intel build and skip the Corsair H100i and pickup something like the Cooler Master Hyper TX3. Then you could possibly pickup a SSHD drive instead of 2 500GB platter only drives. The Intel board also supports running an SSD as a cache drive. You could always use the money saved from the CPU cooler and pickup a cheap SSD drive and run it as a cache drive.

If you plan on overclocking then you will have to get the AMD build. With the AMD build if you overclock then you will need a beefy cooler (H100i is a good choice here) to tame the beast. It might also be worth checking out this video before you makeup your mind.


Either way you go you will see the difference immediately. UEFI is loads better than the old BIOS. Have fun and hope I helped.
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Re: New PC

Postby Neptune24 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:50 am

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the advice.

DJ Tucker wrote:if your not planning on playing anything more than DoW, sims 3 and 4 then you current rig is fine tbh. However, if you really want to upgrade i would go with the intel build as the cpu is around 10-15% better in games and consumes less power saving money in the long run.


First I don't feel that my PC is as it should be. When playing any game the CPU gets upto 75C, and that is after I de-dusted the whole thing. I have reformated and such but still not great. (I even found a rather fruitful guide on increasing the speed of windows and that didn't even do as much as it should have.) I want a PC that runs very smoothly and Comfortably handles any task I give it to do.

DJ Tucker wrote:As for the psu that's a great psu. Finding a psu fully modular for £50, that ain't gonna happen. In fact 600 watts is enough for your system but that Corsair PSU is an awesome price, so i would stick with that psu in case you plan to add another GPU in the future.


I feared that someone was going to say that but I shall look around a bit more and see what I can find. Though a "semi-modular" one that just has the MB connector would be fine as I will use that anyway obviously.

DJ Tucker wrote:If you are looking to upgrade your gpu then i would get gtx 660 for £120-£130 as the performance is much better than your gtx 550 ti in fact the gtx 650 ti beats the gtx 550 ti easily but wouldn't be as greater upgrade. Well, thats just my 2 cents :)


Well thanks for the help with this. I shall look into those. But does anyone know which GPU I should be looking at if I want the sound from the HDMI connection to the monitor??

Major_A wrote:If you buy either build your GPU won't be bottlenecked and you'll definitely get better frame rates. As for the builds I say either one will be a noticeable improvement over what you have now. If you aren't planing on overclocking then I'd say get the Intel build and skip the Corsair H100i and pickup something like the Cooler Master Hyper TX3.


I'm not sure if I will OC to be honest. But I doubt I will, certainly not straight away. I have to say that I do want the WC system because firstly it should keep the CPU a lot cooler than a lot of the air ones, and saves me de-dusting the heatsink quarterly (in thearoy anyway). also I just don't like the idea that my motherboard has a rather large lump of metal bolted onto it.

Major_A wrote:Then you could possibly pickup a SSHD drive instead of 2 500GB platter only drives. The Intel board also supports running an SSD as a cache drive. You could always use the money saved from the CPU cooler and pickup a cheap SSD drive and run it as a cache drive.


I have been looking at SSDs but they are pricey. But if I took a carbon copy of a platter drive could I stick that on an SSD and would it work??
Also you would have to explain the cache drive thing to me. (I guess that SSHD are the hybrids.)

But none the less thank you for the pointers.

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Re: New PC

Postby Major_A » Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:05 pm

Have you ever had to clean a radiator in a computer? It's far worse than a HSF in my opinion. I use a 25 gallon compressor at 90 PSI and it still doesn't clean the radiator all that well.

The SSHD is the hybrid that works as a HDD with it's own SSD caching algorithm. If you already have a hard drive and get an SSD then you can use Intel's RAID controller software to create a version of the SSHD. Same theories different principles.

Yes you can clone a HDD to an SSD without a problem. Just as long as the SSD has enough room.

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Just keep in mind you really don't want to use more that 50% of an SSD drive. After that the performance starts to take a dive.
Look at reviews with Steady State testing. That just means the drive has data on it.
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Re: New PC

Postby Neptune24 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:35 am

Well at least I can take the radiator out of the case and not just moved the dust from heatsink to other parts.

And I will have to look into the SSHD a bit and gain a better understanding.

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Re: New PC

Postby Neptune24 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:31 pm

Ok so after a couple of weeks of my girlfriend strangling my PC and me mucking about in virtualbox, I have decided it really is time to sort out the cooling. It's so loud under load that conversation near it is not nice. My CPU hasn't gone above 60 for a while now but the GPU hits 70 - 80. In turn making all near by fans very loud.

I was looking at the GTX760. Is there another card that would be quiet and perform better for the same price?

Also I think I might go Intel just because of the Gigabyte G1 board I saw.

Still stuck on what cooler to get for the CPU though. And can anyone recommend some decent case fans and some way to have the intakes filtered?

Thanks again.

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Re: New PC

Postby DJ Tucker » Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:45 pm

the 760 is a great card but are you wanting to stay with nvidia or venture to amd? that G1 board is a great board. i wouldn't mind 1 myself. the cooler master sickle flow fans are very good and you can mod a filter on no probs that is if you can find a dust filter :)
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Re: New PC

Postby Neptune24 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:53 pm

DJ Tucker wrote:the 760 is a great card but are you wanting to stay with nvidia or venture to amd?


I'm no fanboy. If an AMD card will perform better and not get overly hot in the process then I'm all ears. Though saying that I do like my Gigabyte stuff.

DJ Tucker wrote: that G1 board is a great board. i wouldn't mind 1 myself.


I just think it looks cool. And as a bonus it has tons of features. A rather non tech approach but seriously I have checked the spec and it will suit me down to the ground.

DJ Tucker wrote:the cooler master sickle flow fans are very good and you can mod a filter on no probs that is if you can find a dust filter :)


That's the main problem. Finding a roll of dust filter material. Once I do that attaching shall be solved and probably quite easily.

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Re: New PC

Postby DJ Tucker » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:57 pm

This is a nice gpu. I want the 770 version =P~
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-Nvidia ... gabyte+760

As for the dust filters these can be screwed on directly with the fan. Maybe worth a try?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/120mm-Aluminium ... ust+filter
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Re: New PC

Postby Neptune24 » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:34 am

That is indeed a nice GPU.

As for the dust filters I think I would need something that would span the entire fan mounting space. But thank you for the head start.

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