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ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:26 pm
by Apoptosis
ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

When it comes mixing and matching different types of graphics card and running them in either SLI or CrossFire mode you are bound to have a number of problems. You will not find too many people advising in trying this, but the video card companies are working hard at making this work. Today, we are looking at ATI's budget friendly Radeon HD 3850 and Radeon HD 3870 graphics cards to seeing how they work together in CrossFire.

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Having a mixed up CrossFire configuration performed better than expected and was able to near the performance level of other high end ATI CrossFire setups. This goes to show that ATI has made great improvements to their CATALYST drivers as taking an ATI Radeon HD 3870 and running it in CrossFire mode with an ATI Radeon HD 3850 was found to be stable and offered great improvements over a single card of either model. How many people will actually try this has yet to be seen, but this is an easy way to cut costs and improve performance...
Article Title: ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards
Article URL: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/663/1/

Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:49 pm
by bubba
Trying out the mad scientist hat tonight were we??
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I would have thought that the system would not have behaved anywhere near nicely with mismatched cards like that, I would have lost money on that bet.

Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:06 pm
by Alathald
Wow, I don't know how you can whip such thorough reviews up so quickly while also running a contest but that's why you're the man! Good read, they perform right where they should for the price, which is amazing for mismatched cards. The only thing that bemuses me is why the 3870CrossFire outperforms the 3870X2 in COD4 while the 3870X2 edges out in front with pretty much everything else... :-k

Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:12 am
by FeRaL
Alathald wrote:Wow, I don't know how you can whip such thorough reviews up so quickly while also running a contest but that's why you're the man! Good read, they perform right where they should for the price, which is amazing for mismatched cards.
No kidding, you have this down to a science. Thanks for going though all this at my request. I really appreciate the time and effort you put in.

This ones for you... :drinkers:

Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:30 am
by DX
I can't wait to see the results of the CrossfireX when it comes out.

Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:28 pm
by Wildfire788
I wasn't at all surprised at these results, particularly because I have heard that the 3850 is basically an underclocked 3870 with less memory and a single slot cooler. If that's true, then it makes sense that they would work together just fine.

Either way, I like what ATI has been doing and it's little things like this that might be what gives them the edge over Nvidia this year.

Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:06 pm
by Cannyone
Very Interesting article! I've personally begun to be very interested in this Visiontek HD3850. Since it has a dual-slot cooler my guess would be that it's more overclockable, and it has 512MB instead of 256MB for memory. At that price I might be able to "beg, borrow, and/or steal" enough to get two. Not that I need two mind you. I hardly every play games on my PC anymore. But World in Conflict sure looks sweat!

Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:35 pm
by GenG
It performed much better then i thought, and all in all is on par with the 3970X2. Interesting, but i still wouldn't consider mixing them. If i was going to spend the extra money on Xfire to begin with then i would just spend the extra 40.

Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:09 pm
by Apoptosis
GenG wrote:It performed much better then i thought, and all in all is on par with the 3970X2. Interesting, but i still wouldn't consider mixing them. If i was going to spend the extra money on Xfire to begin with then i would just spend the extra 40.
It can be done as seen in the article, but I agree with you 100% that in the long run spending the $40 will be the best bet. It is nice to be able to mix and match if needed though.

Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:23 am
by camaroguy1998
Well this Legit Review made the news at The Inquirer!

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/ ... -14feb2008

Its always good to see the LR name in the news!

Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:17 pm
by ssrat
I've been having a dream about hooking my 3750, with an 3750X2.

Any chance you could play with that configuration or would that require the X drivers?

Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:03 am
by Kougar
Impressive job by ATI making this work so well. I would not have expected it to perform as well as it did, but it looks like ATI has their act together as far as drivers go. Nice review guys! 8)

Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:31 am
by Apoptosis
ssrat wrote:I've been having a dream about hooking my 3750, with an 3750X2.

Any chance you could play with that configuration or would that require the X drivers?
That would require the CrossFireX drivers. :(

Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:06 pm
by martini161
could you do this with nvidia cards? say maybe an 8800 gt and an 8800 gts (g92). or maybe something interesting like a g90 gts and a g92 gts

Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:16 pm
by Kougar
martini161 wrote:could you do this with nvidia cards? say maybe an 8800 gt and an 8800 gts (g92). or maybe something interesting like a g90 gts and a g92 gts
No, you can't mix different Nvidia GPUs for SLI. The memory sizes can be different, but the GPU type must be identical.

Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:06 am
by martini161
what about an 8800gt and an 8800gts (g92)? would that work?

Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:12 am
by Apoptosis
no... they are different cores

GeForce 8800 GT G92-270-A2
GeForce 8800 GTS - G92-400-A2
GeForce 9600 GT - G94-300-A1

Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:15 am
by martini161
oh that sucks. i wanted to do that in the future. oh well. i always thought they were the same thing with some of the stream procesors on the gt softlocked or something. i guess after the 6 series they stoped doing that

Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:30 pm
by Apoptosis
Yesterday I had a reader e-mail me with some questions and after bouncing a few e-mails around he sent me this pictures of his mix and matched CrossFire setup. He also watercooled his pair of cards, which is interesting, so I thought I'd share his system pictures with you all.

He has a Sapphire Radeon HD 3870 and a Sapphire Radeon Radeon HD 3850 running CrossFire with 8.2 CATALYST drivers and is also having no problems.
The Sapphire Cards
The Sapphire Cards
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Opps the water block hits a capacitor!
Opps the water block hits a capacitor!
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Had to Grind that down for the water block to fit without hurting the capacitor.
Had to Grind that down for the water block to fit without hurting the capacitor.
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Finally Installed
Finally Installed
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Re: ATI Radeon HD 3870 + 3850 CrossFire - Mixing Video Cards

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:02 pm
by martini161
holy **** thats alot of tubing! anyway, i have one last multi gpu question. if you have 2 cards in the 2 pcie slots, but dont put them in crossfire/sli, then would you get a performance increase? and i lied, i have one more. whats the point of the 3rd pcie slot on 680i boards? will they support triple sli in the future?