:::shudders like Sideshow Bob getting whacked by a garden rake:::
Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, and all that unholy stuff needs to stay with the little children, because that's who those games were suited for....easy language, easy melee battles, easy all around......now if you want a damn good card game you have to have a brain and a strategic inclination to play, then Magic is definitely the way to go.......it's amazing what you can string together in the way of combos, indirect and direct healing abilities by way of artifacts, creatures and the like, not to mention the game is much much older than either of the two aforementioned, thus they have had a lot of time to refine abilities and the accompanying rules of use. I love it, though I'm far from being the best (still a novice/intermediate at best), but of course learning is all part of playing Magic, and the people I generally play with are cool as all hell, and they trade me some good stuff every now and again. Of course, I think I have a card of value (just acquired it Saturday, a foiled Rare.....a Legendary Creature from the Ravnica set) so I have something to play around with on the trading table....anyways, I digress, lol. Still good to know there's an anime freak out there similar to myself, though you obviously know a great deal more about the background stuff, lol.
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Yeah, real enthusiast here, lol.
I'm either completely into something, or not interested at all.
And currently, the three items of interest are PCs, PC games, and anime.
Was real into the Pokemon cards, and then dropped it like a rock and it's been collecting dust in the closet for the last 10 years.
Pikachu! Thundershock!
Those were the good years, haha.
I'm either completely into something, or not interested at all.
And currently, the three items of interest are PCs, PC games, and anime.
Was real into the Pokemon cards, and then dropped it like a rock and it's been collecting dust in the closet for the last 10 years.
Pikachu! Thundershock!
Those were the good years, haha.
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I found a lot of articles about dual core CPU's messing up games.
This was by far the best I found and the different solutions passible with the games that are know to have issues with dual core CPU's
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=983781
Introduction
Since I purchased my X2 and then my dual core Opteron, I noticed that gaming performance suffers while running certain games. [H]ardOCP noted this in one of their reviews as the "Benny Hill Effect." There is a certain amount of stuttering or random speedup/slowdowns while running dual core CPU's in single threaded games. The reason for these problems has to do with power management in some form or another, as these fixes are designed to address specific power management issues. This thread is intended to consolidate a number of fixes I've come across in this forum and elsewhere.
Fix #1 - The AMD Driver ( /usepmtimer switch)
1. Install the AMD Processor driver found here:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors...1_13118,00.html
AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor Driver for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 Version (exe) 1.2.2.2 (or other driver depending on your OS).
This driver will add the /usepmtimer line to your boot.ini file. This will both fix problems in some games (BF2) and will raise problems in others (WoW). So depending on what games you are playing, you might have to edit your boot.ini to reflect the game you are playing.
2. Add the /usepmtimer switch to your boot.ini file manually
Right Click My Computer
Properties
Advanced Tab
Startup and Recovery -> Settings
To edit the startup options manually, click edit -> Edit
This should bring up a .txt file with your boot.ini file
Quote:
Originally Posted by kirbyrj's boot.ini
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect /bootlogo /usepmtimer
Add the /usepmtimer as noted above and it will do what the driver does for you. If it is already there and you still have problems, you might want to take it out and try again, or try one of the other fixes.
Fix #2 - The Microsoft Hotfix
NOTE: This Hotfix is only for Windows XP w/SP2 per the documentation at the link below
Install the hotfix file found at one of these mirrors:
http://exphose.com/upfiles/1/Window...-v3-x86-ENU.exe
http://www.evilkitty.org/misc/Windo...-v3-x86-ENU.exe
http://static.hardwareluxx.de:443/h...-v3-x86-ENU.exe
http://techtype.msfnhosting.com/win...-v3-x86-enu.exe
http://www.perambula.net/res/Window...-v3-x86-ENU.exe
Edit the registry as noted here (specifically note #7 which details how to deactivate/activate the hotfix):
http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?id=896256
Quote:
Originally Posted by Microsoft.com
1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
2. Right-click HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager, point to New, and then click Key.
3. Type Throttle for the new key name.
4. Right-click Throttle, point to New, and then click DWORD Value.
5. Type PerfEnablePackageIdle for the value name.
6. Right-click PerfEnablePackageIdle, and then click Modify.
7. In the Value data box, type 0. Make sure that Hexadecimal is selected in the Edit DWORD Value dialog box, and then click OK.
Note You can type 1 in the Value data box to enable the new performance state policy behavior.
8. Quit Registry Editor.
Specifics as to what is being done from the power management side of things can be read at the link above. These are just the changes that need to be made in the registry. Also note that in the DWORD value box, you enter a "0" to disable the power state created by the hotfix and enter a "1" to enable it. For the purposes of fixing the games, enter a "1".
Fix #3 - Set the Affinity Manually
Finally, the last and least glorious of the fixes is to manually set the CPU affinity of certain programs. This can be done in several ways.
1. Alt-Tab out of your game, CTRL-ALT-DEL to the Task Manager, Under the Processes tab, right click the .exe file for your game and go to Set Affinity, Uncheck CPU 1.
2. Use a program such as Win2000/WinXP Launcher to load games. (Available here: http://www.majorgeeks.com/Win2000_Launcher_d438.html or http://www.majorgeeks.com/WinLauncherXP_d870.html). This will allow you to set the CPU affinity before loading the game, which is useful for games that don't respond well to Alt-Tabbing.
3. Use an affinity masking tool such as ImageCFG (http://www.robpol86.com/Pages/imagecfg.php for instructions on how to use). Backup your .exe before using this program. Imagecfg has a problem with some directories with spaces in them, so its easiest to stick it in the folder with the *.exe file you want to change. Then use the command you need (knowledge of the DOS prompt is a must ):
imagecfg -a 0x1 game.exe for core 1
imagecfg -a 0x2 game.exe for core 2
This will alter your .exe file, so make a backup of it. Especially since future game patches might not work with a patched .exe.
Alternate Fix #4 - Newer video drivers for your graphics card
If you're using an Nvidia video card. Download one of the Forceware 80 series drivers which are dual core optimized. Latest are available here:
http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp
Some older drivers may/may not work with some games/benchmarks and dual core processors.
ATI drivers available here:
https://support.ati.com/ics/support...dge&folderID=27
I would assume dual core support to be forthcoming in future Catalyst releases.
Conclusion
One of the above solutions should fix 98% of your gaming problems with dual core CPU's. Any comments or suggestions are welcome.
This was by far the best I found and the different solutions passible with the games that are know to have issues with dual core CPU's
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=983781
Introduction
Since I purchased my X2 and then my dual core Opteron, I noticed that gaming performance suffers while running certain games. [H]ardOCP noted this in one of their reviews as the "Benny Hill Effect." There is a certain amount of stuttering or random speedup/slowdowns while running dual core CPU's in single threaded games. The reason for these problems has to do with power management in some form or another, as these fixes are designed to address specific power management issues. This thread is intended to consolidate a number of fixes I've come across in this forum and elsewhere.
Fix #1 - The AMD Driver ( /usepmtimer switch)
1. Install the AMD Processor driver found here:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors...1_13118,00.html
AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor Driver for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 Version (exe) 1.2.2.2 (or other driver depending on your OS).
This driver will add the /usepmtimer line to your boot.ini file. This will both fix problems in some games (BF2) and will raise problems in others (WoW). So depending on what games you are playing, you might have to edit your boot.ini to reflect the game you are playing.
2. Add the /usepmtimer switch to your boot.ini file manually
Right Click My Computer
Properties
Advanced Tab
Startup and Recovery -> Settings
To edit the startup options manually, click edit -> Edit
This should bring up a .txt file with your boot.ini file
Quote:
Originally Posted by kirbyrj's boot.ini
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect /bootlogo /usepmtimer
Add the /usepmtimer as noted above and it will do what the driver does for you. If it is already there and you still have problems, you might want to take it out and try again, or try one of the other fixes.
Fix #2 - The Microsoft Hotfix
NOTE: This Hotfix is only for Windows XP w/SP2 per the documentation at the link below
Install the hotfix file found at one of these mirrors:
http://exphose.com/upfiles/1/Window...-v3-x86-ENU.exe
http://www.evilkitty.org/misc/Windo...-v3-x86-ENU.exe
http://static.hardwareluxx.de:443/h...-v3-x86-ENU.exe
http://techtype.msfnhosting.com/win...-v3-x86-enu.exe
http://www.perambula.net/res/Window...-v3-x86-ENU.exe
Edit the registry as noted here (specifically note #7 which details how to deactivate/activate the hotfix):
http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?id=896256
Quote:
Originally Posted by Microsoft.com
1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
2. Right-click HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager, point to New, and then click Key.
3. Type Throttle for the new key name.
4. Right-click Throttle, point to New, and then click DWORD Value.
5. Type PerfEnablePackageIdle for the value name.
6. Right-click PerfEnablePackageIdle, and then click Modify.
7. In the Value data box, type 0. Make sure that Hexadecimal is selected in the Edit DWORD Value dialog box, and then click OK.
Note You can type 1 in the Value data box to enable the new performance state policy behavior.
8. Quit Registry Editor.
Specifics as to what is being done from the power management side of things can be read at the link above. These are just the changes that need to be made in the registry. Also note that in the DWORD value box, you enter a "0" to disable the power state created by the hotfix and enter a "1" to enable it. For the purposes of fixing the games, enter a "1".
Fix #3 - Set the Affinity Manually
Finally, the last and least glorious of the fixes is to manually set the CPU affinity of certain programs. This can be done in several ways.
1. Alt-Tab out of your game, CTRL-ALT-DEL to the Task Manager, Under the Processes tab, right click the .exe file for your game and go to Set Affinity, Uncheck CPU 1.
2. Use a program such as Win2000/WinXP Launcher to load games. (Available here: http://www.majorgeeks.com/Win2000_Launcher_d438.html or http://www.majorgeeks.com/WinLauncherXP_d870.html). This will allow you to set the CPU affinity before loading the game, which is useful for games that don't respond well to Alt-Tabbing.
3. Use an affinity masking tool such as ImageCFG (http://www.robpol86.com/Pages/imagecfg.php for instructions on how to use). Backup your .exe before using this program. Imagecfg has a problem with some directories with spaces in them, so its easiest to stick it in the folder with the *.exe file you want to change. Then use the command you need (knowledge of the DOS prompt is a must ):
imagecfg -a 0x1 game.exe for core 1
imagecfg -a 0x2 game.exe for core 2
This will alter your .exe file, so make a backup of it. Especially since future game patches might not work with a patched .exe.
Alternate Fix #4 - Newer video drivers for your graphics card
If you're using an Nvidia video card. Download one of the Forceware 80 series drivers which are dual core optimized. Latest are available here:
http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp
Some older drivers may/may not work with some games/benchmarks and dual core processors.
ATI drivers available here:
https://support.ati.com/ics/support...dge&folderID=27
I would assume dual core support to be forthcoming in future Catalyst releases.
Conclusion
One of the above solutions should fix 98% of your gaming problems with dual core CPU's. Any comments or suggestions are welcome.
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