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Corsair Accelerator 30GB On The Way

Postby Major_A » Tue May 22, 2012 3:02 pm

http://www.corsair.com/ssd/accelerator- ... rives.html

I give up wondering how well this caching stuff works. I broke down and ordered one Sunday night. After I get it installed I'll post some benchmark results. Hopefully I didn't just waste my money.

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Re: Corsair Accelerator 30GB On The Way

Postby FZ1 » Tue May 22, 2012 3:35 pm

It works pretty well for boot and loading apps. Some file operations won't always see improvements because the data will likely not be cached depending on what you are doing. From a spend/return standpoint, I think it's a decent investment. Benchmarks aren't really going to tell the story but you should feel a difference. How much will depend how fast (or slow) your OS drive is to begin with.
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Re: Corsair Accelerator 30GB On The Way

Postby Major_A » Tue May 22, 2012 3:51 pm

The host drive is a Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB. The main reason I went with this drive is because, for whatever reason, the boot on this computer takes upwards of 5 minutes!

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Re: Corsair Accelerator 30GB On The Way

Postby FZ1 » Tue May 22, 2012 4:17 pm

That will certainly change...prolly below 30 seconds.
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Re: Corsair Accelerator 30GB On The Way

Postby Major_A » Tue May 22, 2012 4:50 pm

Hope so, I dread having to reboot the damn thing. I think the issue is with a .NET Framework update via Windows Update. The computer runs fine until I apply all the Windows Updates then the boot time takes a dive.

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Ran BootRacer and it confirmed my 5 minute suspicion...

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Re: Corsair Accelerator 30GB On The Way

Postby Major_A » Wed May 23, 2012 6:01 pm

Ok got the drive installed along with the PCIe 1X USB 3.0 card I ordered. So far I'm getting really annoyed. Nothing is working like I hoped it would. The USB card is transferring slower than the onboard USB 2.0 ports did.
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Then to top it off the boot times have gotten worse. The only thing that's interesting is after installing the cache drive and USB card the computer booted fine (under a minute). Installed the cache software rebooted and it took over 6 minutes. Ideas?
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Re: Corsair Accelerator 30GB On The Way

Postby kenc51 » Thu May 24, 2012 3:16 am

My guess is that it will get quicker as it learns your typical usage patterns.
Try reboot, leave it idle for 5 mins and then reboot again and test.

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Re: Corsair Accelerator 30GB On The Way

Postby Apoptosis » Fri May 25, 2012 5:24 am

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Re: Corsair Accelerator 30GB On The Way

Postby Major_A » Fri May 25, 2012 12:09 pm

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Appears too that the boot times are constantly getting worse.


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*EDIT*
I'm starting to think this has to do with PCIe lanes. When I attached my USB 3.0 drive to the card my PCIe WiFi card would drop the connection. So I just tried to reboot after pulling the USB 3.0 card and disconnecting the DVD burner. Only things attached now are the 2 hard drives and the video card. Small improvement but it still sucks.
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Re: Corsair Accelerator 30GB On The Way

Postby Major_A » Sat May 26, 2012 9:53 pm

I installed the new USB 3.0 card in my main machine to see if it was faulty. In short, no it's not. So now I'm contemplating reinstalling Windows but I really don't want to do that with the number of applications I have installed. I have noticed that programs are a lot snappier to open, though they aren't nearly as quick as a stand alone SSD. If I had to sum up the performance gain I'd say it's comparable to when I had two of these Samsung Spinpoint F1s in RAID 0.

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*EDIT*
Another small update. Just uninstalled a bunch of stuff I wasn't using. Ran some registry cleaners and that didn't help one iota.

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Re: Corsair Accelerator 30GB On The Way

Postby Major_A » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:28 pm

Finally broke down and reinstalled Windows yesterday. Here are the new results.

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Problem is after installing some apps I'm right back to where I was before.

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I did notice that the boot times went through the roof after I turned on Malewarebytes active protection. I uninstalled it and still have ungodly long boot times.

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Re: Corsair Accelerator 30GB On The Way

Postby DragonFury » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:32 pm

GO into your MSconfig and shut off the programs that are starting up. Uncheck the boxes, also make sure you don't have any programs doing that automatic updating crap.

Run>msconfig>start up> uncheck everything you don't want to start up with computer (do everything but your video card drivers)>click ok>no you do not wish to restart/ poof you done

All this does is stop programs from starting up, nothing else. some messenger virus scanners may need to be set up manually through those programs.
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Re: Corsair Accelerator 30GB On The Way

Postby egloeckle » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:39 pm

Kill everything out of your startup, and do a reboot. It *should* be back to the quick speed. Then re-enable startup processes one at a time until you find the offender. It may not be a single process causing the issue, but a combination of them as well so if you think you have found the offender, disable everything and only enable that one. I have seen some absolutely horrific performance problems caused by two programs just not liking each other and causing the system to lock until windows automatically kills the process/service. The boot times you are describing sound similar, microsoft likes to use 300 seconds as the default timeout on a lot of things.

Once you find the offending software/combination of things you can decide what to nuke from there. Most software packages that have a startup element dont actually need it to run, though you probably already know this.

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Re: Corsair Accelerator 30GB On The Way

Postby Major_A » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:06 pm

I've already done all of those things and more (disabled a ton of Windows services too). The issue is with a piece of software but at this point I don't know which one, I still suspect some damn .NET Framework install.

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Re: Corsair Accelerator 30GB On The Way

Postby egloeckle » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:39 pm

I really hope I am replying on the live server to this....

Did disabling all startup programs and non-essential services make a difference? Make sure you disable non-essential microsoft ones as well including the .net NGEN services.

If doing that does not make a difference, the problem is a much larger PITA and is a driver being loaded into the system. Any odd devices buried anywhere in device manager that may have been added by some software? I doubt it will be that easy, but it is a good place to start.

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Re: Corsair Accelerator 30GB On The Way

Postby DragonFury » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:25 am

I never had an issue with .net did you go into the Msconfig? Hmm I will have to think on this a bit more. that does not look like msconfig on any windows I messed with.
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Re: Corsair Accelerator 30GB On The Way

Postby kenc51 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:18 am

Try disconnecting the SSD, boot off the mechanical disk and run a thorough defrag

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Re: Corsair Accelerator 30GB On The Way

Postby Major_A » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:04 pm

egloeckle wrote:I really hope I am replying on the live server to this....

Did disabling all startup programs and non-essential services make a difference? Make sure you disable non-essential microsoft ones as well including the .net NGEN services.

If doing that does not make a difference, the problem is a much larger PITA and is a driver being loaded into the system. Any odd devices buried anywhere in device manager that may have been added by some software? I doubt it will be that easy, but it is a good place to start.

I did try setting the NGEN services to manual but it didn't help. It could be a driver issue. My internet has been down most of the time for the last 3 days and I was finally able to download the Catalyst drivers. Seems like those were the last drivers I installed before all this started happening.

DragonFury wrote:I never had an issue with .net did you go into the Msconfig? Hmm I will have to think on this a bit more. that does not look like msconfig on any windows I messed with.

That's the Startup tab for CCleaner, same thing as MSConfig. Only with CCleaner you can delete entries instead of just turning them off.
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kenc51 wrote:Try disconnecting the SSD, boot off the mechanical disk and run a thorough defrag

The drive shouldn't be fragmented. I installed Windows Saturday evening. But I'll give it a shot. You think I need to disable the cache drive to defrag the mechanical drive?


Thanks for all the help and suggestions. Keep them coming.

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Re: Corsair Accelerator 30GB On The Way

Postby kenc51 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:33 pm

I'd disable the ssd just in case the defrag runs on it. Just unplug the data cable

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Re: Corsair Accelerator 30GB On The Way

Postby DragonFury » Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:22 pm

why not run the SSD as the main OS drive instead of an cache drive? I was unaware of ccleaners capabilities. Have you tried not using the SSD as a cache drive to see how fast the HDD boots up? or you can install windows 7 onto the 30 gig SSD and see if things improve that way as well, which will require you to use another drive as program installs.
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