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price vs performance

Postby stopthekilling77 » Wed May 21, 2008 5:54 pm

My other brother who is in the Marines just got a bonus check for having shipped out to boot camp a few months before schedule, and he wants to buy a laptop!
I get the call "Hey bro, I know you're a computer guy so I'll let you do the shopping for me" and start surfing the web...

Good News:
- He's got up to $1,500 budgeted out for the machine and he isn't that picky about his components, but I am :D

Problems:
- I don't know how well AMD's mobile processors perform to the C2D counterparts FOR THE PRICE. Of course I'd like him to have the best he can get but not while he gets gouged by high prices.
- Battery life... He's going to want to do some gaming and a lot of movie watching on it, so it has to do well away from an outlet.
- CPU speed, for gaming would you say a 2.5Ghz T9300 work as well as the 2.6Ghz counterpart seeing how that extra 100Mhz usually cranks up the price another $240 or so.

I've looked at this laptop over at Ibuypower.com and it seems to fit the bill, but I'm still researching right now.
Here's what's on it the way I've configured it:
-Battalion 101 CZ-8 Ultra Notebook Case ( Battalion 101 CZ-8 Ultra 15.4" WXGA 1280x800 Widescreen TFT Notebook w/Li-ion battery, Universal AC Power Adapter Original Metallic Silver/Black )
-Processor ( [New !!!] Intel® Core 2 Duo Mobile T9300 Dual-Core Processor (2x 2.5GHz/6MB Cache/800FSB) )
-Memory ( 4096MB(2048MB X2) DDR2-667 PC5300 [Notebook Memory] Corsair Value or Major Brand / due to Microsoft Windows 32-bit Edition limitation, it will displays around 3.5GB in Windows )
-Video Card ( Mobility 512MB NVIDIA GeForce GO 8600GT PCI-Express 3D Video )
-Hard Drive ( 200 GB 7200rpm Serial-ATA-150 Super Slim Notebook Hard Drive )
-CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( 8x Dual Format DVD±R/±RW + 16x CD-R/RW Combo Drive [CZ-8 Ultra] )
-Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
-Fax Modem ( Build-in 56K V.92 Fax Modem [Notebook] )
-Network Card ( Build-in 10/100/1000 Network LAN [Notebook] )
-Mouse ( Logitech MX518 Gaming-Grade Optical Mouse )
-USB 2.0 Accessories ( Build-in 4x USB 2.0 Ports [Notebook] )
-Flash Media Reader/Writer ( Build-in 4-in-1 Media Card Reader/Writer [Notebook] )
-Carrying Case ( Free Deluxe Carrying Case )
-Operation System ( MS Windows XP Professional w/ Service Pack 2 )
-IEEE-1394 Fire Wire Card ( Build-in 1x IEEE-1394 Firewire Port [Notebook] )
-Video Camera ( Build-in 2.0 Mega Pixels Digital Web Video Camera )
-Internal Wireless Network Adapter ( [upgraded] 4965 Wireless-N WiFi Link (802.11b/g/Draft N) PCI-E Mini Card + Bluetooth Card )
-Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard One(1) Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )

Sub Total (Before shipping): $1,400.00


Looking for some good solid opinions or options here. This thing is going to be his daily driver for a few years so it needs to do what he wants well. Thanks!
MSI 970A-G43
AMD Phenom II X4 965BE @ 3.5 GHz
10 GB DDR3 1333 CAS-7
GeForce GTX 650 Ti OC 2GB
2TB Seagate HDD, 1TB WD HDD for backups,
Antec P-180B, Antec 450W PSU
ASUS 27" LED LCD Monitor
someday I will get a real GPU and some SSD's... :goodman:

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Re: price vs performance

Postby dicecca112 » Wed May 21, 2008 6:15 pm

stopthekilling77 wrote:I've looked at this laptop over at Ibuypower.com and it seems to fit the bill, but I'm still researching right now.
Here's what's on it the way I've configured it:
-Battalion 101 CZ-8 Ultra Notebook Case ( Battalion 101 CZ-8 Ultra 15.4" WXGA 1280x800 Widescreen TFT Notebook w/Li-ion battery, Universal AC Power Adapter Original Metallic Silver/Black )
-Processor ( [New !!!] Intel® Core 2 Duo Mobile T9300 Dual-Core Processor (2x 2.5GHz/6MB Cache/800FSB) )
-Memory ( 4096MB(2048MB X2) DDR2-667 PC5300 [Notebook Memory] Corsair Value or Major Brand / due to Microsoft Windows 32-bit Edition limitation, it will displays around 3.5GB in Windows )
-Video Card ( Mobility 512MB NVIDIA GeForce GO 8600GT PCI-Express 3D Video )
-Hard Drive ( 200 GB 7200rpm Serial-ATA-150 Super Slim Notebook Hard Drive )
-CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( 8x Dual Format DVD±R/±RW + 16x CD-R/RW Combo Drive [CZ-8 Ultra] )
-Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
-Fax Modem ( Build-in 56K V.92 Fax Modem [Notebook] )
-Network Card ( Build-in 10/100/1000 Network LAN [Notebook] )
-Mouse ( Logitech MX518 Gaming-Grade Optical Mouse )
-USB 2.0 Accessories ( Build-in 4x USB 2.0 Ports [Notebook] )
-Flash Media Reader/Writer ( Build-in 4-in-1 Media Card Reader/Writer [Notebook] )
-Carrying Case ( Free Deluxe Carrying Case )
-Operation System ( MS Windows XP Professional w/ Service Pack 2 )
-IEEE-1394 Fire Wire Card ( Build-in 1x IEEE-1394 Firewire Port [Notebook] )
-Video Camera ( Build-in 2.0 Mega Pixels Digital Web Video Camera )
-Internal Wireless Network Adapter ( [upgraded] 4965 Wireless-N WiFi Link (802.11b/g/Draft N) PCI-E Mini Card + Bluetooth Card )
-Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard One(1) Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )

Sub Total (Before shipping): $1,400.00


Looking for some good solid opinions or options here. This thing is going to be his daily driver for a few years so it needs to do what he wants well. Thanks!


Alright, CPU, HDD, and GPU are good is good. You don't need wireless N, its just a gimmick, save some money with the G. The 4GB of memory is too much, nobody is gonna use that much. I would also get a bigger screen. You need a good 9Cell. Mine gets 4hrs+ just surfing 2.5 hours watching movies

Honestly I would look at Dells.

Something like this


Date 5/21/2008 7:13:39 PM Central Standard Time
Catalog Number 29 Retail 19
Catalog Number / Description Product Code SKU Id
System Color:
Tuxedo Black BKDMSAT [313-6439] 2
XPS M1530:
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T9300 (2.5GHz/800Mhz FSB, 6MB Cache) H93DHN [223-5877] 1
Operating System:
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition VHP3E [310-9764][412-1056][420-5769][420-5924][420-6436][420-6813][420-6995][420-7590][463-2282] 11
LCD, Color and camera:
High Resolution, glossy widescreen 15.4 inch LCD(1440x900) & 2MP Camera DXGAPC [320-6691] 5
Memory:
2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz (2 Dimms) 2GB2D [311-7821] 3
Hard Drives:
Speed: 160GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive Free Fall Sensor 160G72 [341-6247] 8
Combo or DVD+RW Drive:
Slot Load DVD+/-RW (DVD/CD read/write) 8XDVDRW [313-5820][420-8183] 16
Video Card:
256MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8600M GT 25686GT [320-6082] 6
Wireless Networking Cards:
Dell Wireless 1395 802.11g Mini Card TM1395 [430-2680] 19
Bluetooth and Wireless USB:
Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth Internal (2.0+Enhanced Data Rate) H355I [430-2566] 121
Primary Battery:
85 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery 9BAT [312-0639] 27
Sound Card:
High Definition Audio 2.0 IS [313-4783] 17
SECURITY:
Finger Print Reader XPS M1530 FPRDR [467-2337] 80
Dell Printer Driver:
Windows Vista™ Premium VPN [310-8628] 750
Software - Adobe:
Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 8.1 ADOBER [420-7468] 15
Processor Branding:
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor IC2DNB [310-8319] 749
Doms Camera and Color:
High Resolution,Black glossy widescreen 15.4 inch LCD(1440x900)&2MP Cam KXGTPC [320-6795][420-7715] 748
Software - Antivirus:
McAfee SecurityCenter 15-months VMCAF1Y [410-1184] 25
Productivity:
No Microsoft Office MSONO [412-1397] 22
Warranty & Service:
1Yr In-Home Service, Parts Labor,24x7 Phone Support S1OS [412-0360][950-3337][950-9797][960-8710][984-2350][988-5607] 29
DataSafe Online Backup:
Included 3 GB DataSafe Online Backup for 1Yr DATSF3G [420-7091][420-7092][987-4817][988-0099] 813
Dial-Up Internet Access:
No ISP requested NISP [412-0148]


1713$. But there is a 25% off coupon, so it brings it around 1400$
http://www.cheapstingybargains.com/cheapster/dell/
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Re: price vs performance

Postby stopthekilling77 » Wed May 21, 2008 6:54 pm

Thanks for the tips and the coupon!
I added in the X-Fi sound card considering my brother is an audiophile: $1,408 shipped

ran it by him a minute ago and hes about to call me to order it lol

marines :roll:
MSI 970A-G43
AMD Phenom II X4 965BE @ 3.5 GHz
10 GB DDR3 1333 CAS-7
GeForce GTX 650 Ti OC 2GB
2TB Seagate HDD, 1TB WD HDD for backups,
Antec P-180B, Antec 450W PSU
ASUS 27" LED LCD Monitor
someday I will get a real GPU and some SSD's... :goodman:

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Re: price vs performance

Postby Sparky » Wed May 21, 2008 7:55 pm

Have you tought about checking the Dell Outlet? Got the laptop in my signature for around $1300 and have no complaints. No scratches or dents, no problems.
Asus X58 Sabertooth|i7 950|CM Hyper 212+|12GB XMS3 PC1600|XFX HD 6870 |Samsung 840 Evo 250 GB SSD|1TB WD Caviar Black SATA 6|1 TB WD Caviar Black SATA 3|X-Fi Titanium|Corsair HX 750|LG Blu-ray Burner|Asus DVD/CD Burner|CM HAF 922|Windows 7 64 Bit

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Re: price vs performance

Postby stopthekilling77 » Wed May 21, 2008 9:01 pm

got a Dell XPS M1530 ordered today, shipped for $1,368.67
:mrgreen:

thing's a beast!
MSI 970A-G43
AMD Phenom II X4 965BE @ 3.5 GHz
10 GB DDR3 1333 CAS-7
GeForce GTX 650 Ti OC 2GB
2TB Seagate HDD, 1TB WD HDD for backups,
Antec P-180B, Antec 450W PSU
ASUS 27" LED LCD Monitor
someday I will get a real GPU and some SSD's... :goodman:


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