PJ-PJ wrote:Intel just released a new BIOS Update: 2507 (1/23/07) that is supposed to have a fix for the Marvell controller - HDD LED problem. Has nayone tried the new BIOS and how stable is it?
[RANT]mickrussom wrote:Hey, can you also tell them that there should be a way to disable that crap image that pops up on boot (I DONT WANT A SPLASH SSCREEN and I'm not using that BIOS editor they give out to get rid of it, plus that editor, the System Integrator Toolkit, wont let you put no image in a way that I could find out, it has to have something, lame) and also tell themApoptosis wrote:I just sent this to Intel....
PLEASE ANSWER THE PHONE AND ACCEPT EMAIL FOR SUPPORT.
What the HELL is Intel's problem? I've used several generations of their boards and it has always been top notch. This new crop and this horrid horrid Marvell controller is bad news man.
ALSO, when you hit reset on this motherboard during post, the next time it boots it whines about failed posting and gives a totally worthless error message, and sometimes, if you click the power button twice in quick succession, the power supply bleats out this horrible whine and you have to hold the power button down for 4 seconds to get rid of it.
HINT TO INTEL:
- Drop Marvell for storage, and try doing a deal for a real raid controller, maybe something from Areca or 3Ware so we can have real raid and not crap FRAID.
- Stop gluing on ass audio controllers. Sigma-Stain driverless 9720D. I'd rather have an Ensoniq 1370 glued on there, at least there are drivers all over. Seriously, grab a SoundBlaster Audigy or Xi Fi and glue that on. I bought Intel to avoid "mystery hardware"… and Now I'm debating getting a PCIe 3ware for raid and a XiFi for sound. Thanks Intel, for making me want to replace this stuff on a $230 board.
Intel's product manager for motherboards is a non-technical jerk idiot that needs to be fired. I can go to intel, do the product management for the boards and make every gamer, and serious desktop users happy.
Why would they do something cool like support ECC memory and then put assy mcgee sound card and assy marvell controllers on there.
First I ever heard of this. I actually like that the BIOS detects a failed overclock and allows you to continue to boot to fix it vs. opening the case, pulling the battery, and resetting all of your BIOS settings from scratch. I think there are a few other boards that do this....ALSO, when you hit reset on this motherboard during post, the next time it boots it whines about failed posting and gives a totally worthless error message, and sometimes, if you click the power button twice in quick succession, the power supply bleats out this horrible whine and you have to hold the power button down for 4 seconds to get rid of it.
My BEST recommendation is to RMA your Intel board and hop over to ASUS/ABIT/MSI or, better yet, go grab a $400.00 ASUS Striker (or other 680i board) and then brief us back on the support you get with that. If you spent $230.00 on the BX2 then you obviously didn't shop around (mine was $199 for a 3 year warranty and I shop 2 places).Hey, can you also tell them that there should be a way to disable that crap image that pops up on boot (I DONT WANT A SPLASH SSCREEN and I'm not using that BIOS editor they give out to get rid of it, plus that editor, the System Integrator Toolkit, wont let you put no image in a way that I could find out, it has to have something, lame) and also tell them... <snip>
THE NEW BIOS Fixed it, the HDD light problem. The ECC issue was NBD.Apoptosis wrote:PJ wrote:Intel just released a new BIOS Update: 2507 (1/23/07) problem!
Asus, Intel, Supermicro, Tyan.DaddyRabbit wrote:mickrussom wrote:Apoptosis wrote:I just sent this to Intel....Some people want the system to just work. For example, I tend to use ECC memory. DDR2 800 ECC 5-5-5-15 memory on my 8800GTX gets 11500 on 3Dmark2006. Im willing to pay for stability/quality.Intel has NEVER been an enthusiast's board. The BX1 was their first attempt and the BX2 was a huge leap from Intel in trying to support the "enthusiast" niche market. If you've built many Intel board PCs then you well know that they have a name for stability, not tweakability.
Exactly, FRAID should be banned. Drivers on the sleezy FRAID implementations cause the most issues.I was jazzed about 680i and when the 1st boards became available I was half a second from pulling the trigger then I started looking through the 1st week of posts (about 600 I think it was) on the EVGA forums discussing things like "I turned my PC on and my MB happily devoured all of the data on my SATA RAID". I'll bet Acronis and Symantec ghost folks were happy about THAT release...
1) no excuse. if the light is useless, leave it off. Dont screw up so bad that it gets wedged into a bad state.So far (while there are other issues that I am undoubtedy missing) the main complaints seem to be:
1) The HDD light stays on all the time with the Marvel controller disabled.
OK I'm going to go out on a limb here but with sub-10 millisecond drive access times if you really think that the "little blinky light" tells you anything other than your HDD is being accessed then you need a vision test (or a casting test for "Heros"). While I don't think that an engineering team of Intel's quality should have let this slip they have fixed it in the latest BIOS.
2) The onboard sound (especially the mic volume issue)... What serious enthusiast/gamer has EVER used onboard audio? Nuff said....
3) The Marvel SATA controller... Every motherboad MFG has used them, relax it's just an industry...
2) simple solution, use a real audio asic on the board. charge more. everyone wins.
3) again, just because everyone sucks doesnt mean its ok to suck. if 3ware , LSI or other non-FRAID chipsets were used, this wouldnt be a problem.
I dont overclock. All that happened is that the reset button was pressed again early in post. Reset button isnt a boot failure. Bug, fundamental - and this is indefensible - its a bad bug.First I ever heard of this. I actually like that the BIOS detects a failed overclock and allows you to continue to boot to fix it vs. opening the case, pulling the battery, and resetting all of your BIOS settings from scratch. I think there are a few other boards that do this....
No, I dont like Nvidia or ATI chipsets. Intel is reasonable - those guys are in my experience no as good. I've built many systems over the years and between linux/freebsd/windows, I have the least trouble with Intel. I expect more from Intel, and they need to stay ahead of the curve delivering reliable paltforms for the latest silicon, namely the X6800 I have.My BEST recommendation is to RMA your Intel board and hop over to ASUS/ABIT/MSI or, better yet, go grab a $400.00 ASUS Striker (or other 680i board) and then brief us back on the support you get with that. If you spent $230.00 on the BX2 then you obviously didn't shop around (mine was $199 for a 3 year warranty and I shop 2 places).
My builds include; ASUS, ABIT, MSI, Shuttle, Soyo, and DFI (as well as Intel) this has been, without a doubt the LEAST trouble prone build I've ever done.
After updating the BIOS, it may be prudent to try and reset / drain the BIOS settings by removing the battery and unplugging the board for some time, an Intel manual indicated one hour.PNCD wrote:No reply to my post on Monday. Perhaps everyone has their problems with Marvell sorted out now that the HDD lights work?
I updated to Bios 2618 today. I rebuilt the Marvell array (Secondary RAID enabled, IDE drive type). BSOD every time Vista Ultimate 32 boots up. Killing the array in Ctrl-M works fine - Vista sees the independent drives. No response from Intel.
Two questions:
1. Does anyone have Vista 32 with drives on Intel SATA controller (boot HDD and DVD in my case) plus a RAID 0 array on Marvell SATA controller?
2. If this cannot work, then I need to move on and get a RAID controller for my Barracuda drives. Can anyone recommend a RAID controller that will work with a disabled Marvell controller and with SATA drives on the Intel controller, but no RAID?
I would appreciate your help!
DaddyRabbit wrote:I just sent this to Intel....
Also, I hope you are aware there are two versions of this board that effects prices! There is one with a crappy audio controller, and one with a really crappy audio controller. Thus the "full" board has the multiple digital audio outs.My BEST recommendation is to RMA your Intel board and hop over to ASUS/ABIT/MSI or, better yet, go grab a $400.00 ASUS Striker (or other 680i board) and then brief us back on the support you get with that. If you spent $230.00 on the BX2 then you obviously didn't shop around (mine was $199 for a 3 year warranty and I shop 2 places).
there's no way to disable the image. but you can replace it by a black one. read this: http://www.abxzone.com/forums/1349366-post2590.htmlmickrussom wrote:Anyone have step by step instructions for disabling that awful useless annoying splash startup image with the D975XBX2?
But when I tried just that, there is still no POST messages, no nothing, only the F2 setup prompt. I want to see memory counted, HDD detected, type of CPUs detected, BIOS version displayed, etc, like a normal BIOS, like every other intel bios out there.Dandruff wrote:there's no way to disable the image. but you can replace it by a black one. read this: http://www.abxzone.com/forums/1349366-post2590.html
Every other BIOS I have seen. I use quite a number of Intel Server boards, and have used everything before the 955 chipset more or less. This 975 should have a "normal" post.Dandruff wrote:every other intel bios?
