SSD space disappearing?
- camaroguy1998
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SSD space disappearing?
I inherited an HP Pavillion p6204y about a year or so ago! The Hdd in it was apparently failing. So I bought a Mushkin 240G SSD to replace the factory drive. I loaded Win7 with my disc and the original key code! Its been running pretty good until recently. A warning popped up a few days ago saying the SSD is dangerously low on space! I checked it and it showed 460mb left of open space. I went and cleaned it up some, brought it up to 960mb.
Today I checkd it again and its back to 460mb open space. So I lost 500mb of open space in 24hrs.
What can cause open space on a drive to just get ate away? I've looked at all the folders and files on the drive and cannot figure out whats going on!
I've lost well over 100 to 140G's in a relatively short period of time.
Any ideas what could be going on?
Today I checkd it again and its back to 460mb open space. So I lost 500mb of open space in 24hrs.
What can cause open space on a drive to just get ate away? I've looked at all the folders and files on the drive and cannot figure out whats going on!
I've lost well over 100 to 140G's in a relatively short period of time.
Any ideas what could be going on?
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Re: SSD space disappearing?
Drive indexing? - find the windows.edb file and see how big that puppy is. You may have to stop the indexing service to delete the file or else restart in safe mode to do it. It will rebuild itself as maybe it got stuck on something and just went crazy (like Windows doesn't do that on a daily basis). I would turn it off if you just have a ssd. This may not be your problem but a good place to start at least.
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\Data\Applications\Windows
Mine is 6.65GB in size but then I have 7 drives in the system plus my NAS
So - control Panel --->indexing options - shows me I only have 42,523 items indexed so i am thinking mine went whacky too. In that same window click the ADVANCED button then the REBUILD button - It may take a LONG time depending on what all you have indexed. Will update to see what my file size is after indexing for a comparison.
Dropped to 184MB after rebuild
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\Data\Applications\Windows
Mine is 6.65GB in size but then I have 7 drives in the system plus my NAS
So - control Panel --->indexing options - shows me I only have 42,523 items indexed so i am thinking mine went whacky too. In that same window click the ADVANCED button then the REBUILD button - It may take a LONG time depending on what all you have indexed. Will update to see what my file size is after indexing for a comparison.
Dropped to 184MB after rebuild
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Re: SSD space disappearing?
I followed your directions, pretty sure there is a problem! Just not sure where! This is what I got....KnightRid wrote:Drive indexing? - find the windows.edb file and see how big that puppy is. You may have to stop the indexing service to delete the file or else restart in safe mode to do it. It will rebuild itself as maybe it got stuck on something and just went crazy (like Windows doesn't do that on a daily basis). I would turn it off if you just have a ssd. This may not be your problem but a good place to start at least.
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\Data\Applications\Windows
Mine is 6.65GB in size but then I have 7 drives in the system plus my NAS
So - control Panel --->indexing options - shows me I only have 42,523 items indexed so i am thinking mine went whacky too. In that same window click the ADVANCED button then the REBUILD button - It may take a LONG time depending on what all you have indexed. Will update to see what my file size is after indexing for a comparison.
Dropped to 184MB after rebuild
27 items indexed
Insufficient disk space to continue indexing. Search results might not be complete.
I am down to 404MB left on drive!
Oh before I tried to rebuild, it showed 1,4xx items indexed.
windows.edb is 74mb
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Re: SSD space disappearing?
Ok, https://windirstat.net/
That should let you see which directory/etc is big.
You can also check your temp folder ( open a cmd window and type ECHO %Temp% to get the exact location of your windows temp folder if you dont know it ), hibernate file and pagefile (both of those should be in the root directory of your c drive unless you moved them or disabled them.
Also - http://crystalmark.info/software/Crysta ... dex-e.html - check the smart reading on the ssd to make sure there is nothing going bad with the drive.
I will try and keep checking this to respond faster.
That should let you see which directory/etc is big.
You can also check your temp folder ( open a cmd window and type ECHO %Temp% to get the exact location of your windows temp folder if you dont know it ), hibernate file and pagefile (both of those should be in the root directory of your c drive unless you moved them or disabled them.
Also - http://crystalmark.info/software/Crysta ... dex-e.html - check the smart reading on the ssd to make sure there is nothing going bad with the drive.
I will try and keep checking this to respond faster.
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Re: SSD space disappearing?
I should be working on it again sometime late afternoon/evening.
Thanx Knightrid!
I appreciate the help!
Thanx Knightrid!
I appreciate the help!
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Re: SSD space disappearing?
No problem man, I hope we can get it figured out!
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Re: SSD space disappearing?
According to windirstat. My temp file is the BIG file!(at 3:24am)KnightRid wrote:Ok, https://windirstat.net/
That should let you see which directory/etc is big.
You can also check your temp folder ( open a cmd window and type ECHO %Temp% to get the exact location of your windows temp folder if you dont know it ), hibernate file and pagefile (both of those should be in the root directory of your c drive unless you moved them or disabled them.
Also - http://crystalmark.info/software/Crysta ... dex-e.html - check the smart reading on the ssd to make sure there is nothing going bad with the drive.
I will try and keep checking this to respond faster.
pagefile.sys is 5.47GB
hiberfil.sys is 4.49GB
temp file is 181.3GB
Dont worry about your response time! My time is all night!
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Re: SSD space disappearing?
There you go, check out that temp directory and clean it out. Maybe it has left over install programs and such from windows.
take that temp file and do this
take that temp file and do this
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Re: SSD space disappearing?
All my years of dealing with windows, i've never seen this!KnightRid wrote:There you go, check out that temp directory and clean it out. Maybe it has left over install programs and such from windows.
take that temp file and do this
Can I delete the folder or its contents and Windows will recreate it?
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Re: SSD space disappearing?
I would just delete the contents, not the folder.
Windows will continue to use it and it may get crap in it again.
Windows will continue to use it and it may get crap in it again.
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Re: SSD space disappearing?
Pretty much what i figured! Thanx Knightrid!
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Re: SSD space disappearing?
No problem man.camaroguy1998 wrote:Pretty much what i figured! Thanx Knightrid!
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Re: SSD space disappearing?
Well that didnt work out so well.
I deleted most everything in the folder and only picked up about 950MB
Update: Ok, I'm starting to freak out a little!
Using WinDirStat, it shows my C. drive as 43.1GB. Windows being the big file at 29.9
That all seems normal to me but,
When I look at my C drive through windows it shows it as 860MB free of 223GB
Yes I did reboot after deleting files and yes I emptied the Recycle bin.
I deleted most everything in the folder and only picked up about 950MB
Update: Ok, I'm starting to freak out a little!
Using WinDirStat, it shows my C. drive as 43.1GB. Windows being the big file at 29.9
That all seems normal to me but,
When I look at my C drive through windows it shows it as 860MB free of 223GB
Yes I did reboot after deleting files and yes I emptied the Recycle bin.
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Re: SSD space disappearing?
Try scanning for the size of.the folders again and see what's up. Maybe hidden files or folders
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Re: SSD space disappearing?
I opened windirstat (twice)KnightRid wrote:Try scanning for the size of.the folders again and see what's up. Maybe hidden files or folders
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Before it analyzes the drive it shows the drive as 863MB free of 223GB.
After it analyzes the drive, it breaks down to what I consider normal. C: drive at 43.3GB, Windows being the largest file at 29.9GB.
Even if I add up all the files under windows it evens out at 43.3GB
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Re: SSD space disappearing?
Disk quota? Right click drive, left click properties and check the tab for disk quota just to make sure it's off
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Re: SSD space disappearing?
Disk Quota is Disabled!KnightRid wrote:Disk quota? Right click drive, left click properties and check the tab for disk quota just to make sure it's off
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Re: SSD space disappearing?
Ok what is the drive showing now in windows? Is it saying the c drive is only 43gb?
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Re: SSD space disappearing?
I wish! Windows shows 863MB free of 223GBKnightRid wrote:Ok what is the drive showing now in windows? Is it saying the c drive is only 43gb?
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Re: SSD space disappearing?
Chkdsk /r if you have not tried that. Make sure to do it from elevated cmd.
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