iMac questions

bubba · Post by **bubba** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:53 am

ok, I was asked by a co-worker and wasn't quite sure how to do it seeing how I have never had to.

1. how would one go about networking a PC and iMac G4 (the one with the round base) for file sharing? I didnt think that it would a staight hook up, but never messed with a mac.

2. she got this thing used, it has OS9.2 on it, and she has a OS X upgrade that was bought for the box but never put on. if she does the upgrade will she loose everything, like the programs and such?

3. she also wants to upgrade the memory, there are two from what I can gather. 1 144 pin pc133 (in the user access) and 1 168 pin pc133 on the system board. the one int he user access is not hard to get to from what I am reading. but the one on the board. how hard is that to get to?

thanks

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:20 am

bubba wrote:ok, I was asked by a co-worker and wasn't quite sure how to do it seeing how I have never had to.

1. how would one go about networking a PC and iMac G4 (the one with the round base) for file sharing? I didnt think that it would a staight hook up, but never messed with a mac.

thanks

goto apple menu - control panel - tcp/ip preferences?
osx - apple menu - system preferences - network

I think?

Don't use apple but I'm sure someone here can jump in!

I'm in work, will have a look at our mac testbed pc for you when i can.....

-mogwai · Post by **-mogwai** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:27 pm

make sure windows networking (or something like that) is enabled on the mac

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:00 pm

kenc51 wrote:
bubba wrote:ok, I was asked by a co-worker and wasn't quite sure how to do it seeing how I have never had to.

1. how would one go about networking a PC and iMac G4 (the one with the round base) for file sharing? I didnt think that it would a staight hook up, but never messed with a mac.

thanks
goto apple menu - control panel - tcp/ip preferences?
osx - apple menu - system preferences - network

I think?

Don't use apple but I'm sure someone here can jump in!

I'm in work, will have a look at our mac testbed pc for you when i can.....

I completely forgot to check in work!! SORRY!
I got off a little early and ran out the door

I'll check for you tomorrow... there is a couple of guys in work who know their macs!

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:12 pm

TCP/IP is the standard for networking period, but the software used to arbitrate the connection is AppleTalk, I believe; I'm pretty sure OS 9.2 or OS X should have an interface that can arbitrate between two different hardware architectures such as PC's. I could use some schooling in Mac's too, lol; I have never dealt with Mac's, but have heard decent things about their graphical abilities. Of course, I think they should have stuck with the Motorola chips they were using in the systems, and also the uniform bus speeds throughout. Other than that, I don't know much more about em.

bubba · Post by **bubba** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:26 am

Thanks for the info.

as for myself, I have used a mac once, 1/2 hour in study hall, to type a report.

I hear they are pretty good for vid editing, but can't see buy a mac just for some thing that I only do for home movies...

zragnarok · Post by **zragnarok** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:52 pm

they are pretty useful

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:43 pm

bubba wrote:I hear they are pretty good for vid editing, but can't see buy a mac just for some thing that I only do for home movies...

well, depending on the outcome of that Cisco exam after I'm done taking the classes, I might just do that, as I'll have a good enough job with enough money to swim in, lol. I could use it for learning CAD and doing some cool video tutorials for something like building a whitebox notebook; imagine, actually having a full-length video teaching you to build a notebook, though the pics do extremely well, it would be like a class lecture, lol (that would be cool, ugh I'm such a dork, rofl)

SAMSAMHA · Post by **SAMSAMHA** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:54 am

bubba wrote:ok, I was asked by a co-worker and wasn't quite sure how to do it seeing how I have never had to.

1. how would one go about networking a PC and iMac G4 (the one with the round base) for file sharing? I didnt think that it would a staight hook up, but never messed with a mac.

2. she got this thing used, it has OS9.2 on it, and she has a OS X upgrade that was bought for the box but never put on. if she does the upgrade will she loose everything, like the programs and such?

3. she also wants to upgrade the memory, there are two from what I can gather. 1 144 pin pc133 (in the user access) and 1 168 pin pc133 on the system board. the one int he user access is not hard to get to from what I am reading. but the one on the board. how hard is that to get to?

thanks

I would suggest her to upgrade to os x first, because os x has better and easeir networking than the 9.2. When she upgrade to the os x, the installation process will ask to see if you want to save teh old os or do a clean installation, just choose save the old os/files. it's good idea as it allows you to boot into old os in case you need it as well. However, still back up all the files just in case. AFter you install the os x, go to the system preference (forgot exactly what it calls in mac, but it's something like this) then choose file sharing, and enable file sharing. Then it would give you the ip and such, you then type in that ip in IE and then you should be able to access the mac computer under windows. To access windows with mac is easier as after you choose file sahirng, the mac will automatically mount the shared folder under windows to mac.

as far as I recall, the onboard memory is not upgradable. it's solder into the board. Ithink you can only upgrade the other stick of memory.

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:58 am

hmm, so this G4 does use the Motorola chips?? if so, then that's one heck of a computer, because I've dealt with Imacs in the early running, and they were powerful in graphics and CAD processing. Alas, you can't upgrade some things, and the things you can upgrade can be expensive (I think Mac went with SCSI HDD's in their Imacs?).

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:20 am

bubba wrote:ok, I was asked by a co-worker and wasn't quite sure how to do it seeing how I have never had to.

1. how would one go about networking a PC and iMac G4 (the one with the round base) for file sharing? I didnt think that it would a staight hook up, but never messed with a mac.

thanks

OSX
goto apple menu - system preferences - network
then apple talk tab - enter tcp/ip settings as required (make sure on same ip range)
Then hold down control and click on your prefered folder (which ever you want to share) --> goto get info => then enable sharing and set permissions!

I'm not sure about OS 9 or about if upograding will delete saved info (I doubt it will!)

-mogwai · Post by **-mogwai** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:26 pm

killswitch83 wrote:hmm, so this G4 does use the Motorola chips?? if so, then that's one heck of a computer, because I've dealt with Imacs in the early running, and they were powerful in graphics and CAD processing. Alas, you can't upgrade some things, and the things you can upgrade can be expensive (I think Mac went with SCSI HDD's in their Imacs?).

yup... and then later on, ibm took over the g4s because of some dispute between motorola and apple.

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:48 pm

That sucks arse, especially since Intel has a stake in Apple now; I just don't understand why a PC manufacturer would be allowed anywhere near a Mac, lol; totally different architectures, but I guess all good things have to come to an end eh?

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:57 pm

killswitch83 wrote:That sucks arse, especially since Intel has a stake in Apple now; I just don't understand why a PC manufacturer would be allowed anywhere near a Mac, lol; totally different architectures, but I guess all good things have to come to an end eh?

I was running OSX on my second rig last week... developer version.. but still.. it boots in 15 seconds, and thats fully started up, not like windoze which only gets started when you see the desktop...

OSX on intel is a major improvement.. IMHO
The Power PC cpu so only good in some areas.. x86 dominates... so way to go apple!

Now all they need to do is offer OSX to all, not just on a mac... but that will never happen!

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:40 pm

did you mod OS X to run on a PC? or is your second rig a Mac? because if it is running on an x86 platform I want in, lol; I could use all the learning of OS's as possible!

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:49 pm

killswitch83 wrote:did you mod OS X to run on a PC? or is your second rig a Mac? because if it is running on an x86 platform I want in, lol; I could use all the learning of OS's as possible!

:dodgey gound:
You can "aquire" a dvd of the osx/x86 developer version (i'm saying no more on this!)

OSX always had support for x86!
Apple have a Developer kit for a select few
3.6Ghz intel cpu, a certain Intel mobo and such

People have found ways to emulate the developer PC'S Bios etc.
OSX will only run on a cpu with a sse2 instruction set (prescott and new amd) and itunes needs sse3

I don't want to say more as I'm not sure how legal all this is!

If the admins don't mind i can tell more (but not about where/how etc obviously), otherwise...

google is your friend ;)

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:20 pm

no problem, I get your drift...I know where to start looking too, I just needed to know under what circumstances you were running OSX, muhahahahaha

-mogwai · Post by **-mogwai** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:07 pm

kenc51 wrote:
killswitch83 wrote:That sucks arse, especially since Intel has a stake in Apple now; I just don't understand why a PC manufacturer would be allowed anywhere near a Mac, lol; totally different architectures, but I guess all good things have to come to an end eh?
I was running OSX on my second rig last week... developer version.. but still.. it boots in 15 seconds, and thats fully started up, not like windoze which only gets started when you see the desktop...

OSX on intel is a major improvement.. IMHO
The Power PC cpu so only good in some areas.. x86 dominates... so way to go apple!

Now all they need to do is offer OSX to all, not just on a mac... but that will never happen!

i completely agree.... and, now, that apple will be utilizing modified and improved prescott and yonah core processors in 2006 in all their new shizzle, it'll make for some serious competition. also, there's some buzz about apple making their intel-based computers dual bootable with windows. i doubt it, but apple always full of surprises.

i have, however, heard much talk of pc manufacturers, like dell and hp, making pcs that can run osx... AND i've heard that within the next two or three years, apples will become customizable. companies like asus and msi and whatnot want a piece of the apple customization plan.

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:56 pm

One can only hope Apple will allow this to happen; though I have limited experience with Mac OS's, I've used a Mac before, and the organization of their desktop is awesome, with shortcuts to the most important apps right in plain and orderly view, instead of cluttering up the desktop with icons; and it loads much much quicker than Windows (this system had OS 9 on it); only thing is though, will it be Bill Gates buying out Apple, or will it be a partnership (I know the law doesn't allow monopolies, but if you think about it, Micro$oft holds the majority share in the PC market, has for a long time, and I fear they'll do the same thing to Apple and try to destroy the purity of this great OS, time will tell)? I'm hoping it's more like PC manufacturers and component vendors working with Apple to bring their OS to the x86 platform.

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