Trendnet TEW-652BRP

[kylepaddock]

I have a Trendnet TEW-652BRP wifi router.
I have a problem when I have my laptop (on wifi) and 2 desktops (Ethernet) and one NAS (Ethernet) plugged in my router crashes.
If i unplug one desktop and the NAS i get back my router. Is my router crashing? time to get a new one? what would be a good replacement?

[Major_A]

Could be a sign of it dying. Have you tried looking for and applying a firmware update?

http://www.trendnet.com/downloads/list_ ... PE_ID=1361

[dicecca112]

Couple things

1. What is the network traffic like when it crashes?
2. What do you mean crashes? Does the router reboot, does it shut off, does it become slow or traffic fails completely?

I have two thoughts, if its during high traffic times, you could be overwhelming the router, and its overheating, or the Processor in the router just can't handle the traffic. If its shutting down/rebooting it could be a sign of overheating, or impending death. If its hot during those time, then it could be overheating, and try to cool it more adequately.

[kylepaddock]

@Major_A Yes it does have the newest firmware.
@dicecca112 Traffic is low maybe one person just searching the net or receiving emails. No downloading or gaming when it crashes. It will go to a inactive mode. The status is gone. I can view its SSID but I can't connect. I have to reset EVERYTHING and start back at the beginning to get it to work for 2 day before a crash again. out temperature in out house never exceeds 74F.

[Major_A]

I tend to go through a router roughly once a year. The first sign it's bad is connection issues. Whether it be with modem or with clients. So from what you've said I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it's going bad.

[kenc51]

Try ping the router when the problem happens - do you get replies? IF you do, what are the response times? They should be lower than 5msec (generally you should get 1 - 2msec)

Have you tested with different cables? Faulty cable(s) can cause this.

[kylepaddock]

When it gets buggs, i cant ping it when it works i get >ms

[kenc51]

Try different ethernet cables, if you have an ASUS board, the bios has a basic cable tester built-in.

Can you telnet into the router? If you can, you can normally type "?" or "help" to get a list of commands.
There should be one to show debug info, something like "show all-info" or "dmesg"

If you can get this info, post it here.

[kylepaddock]

Try different ethernet cables, if you have an ASUS board, the bios has a basic cable tester built-in.

Can you telnet into the router? If you can, you can normally type "?" or "help" to get a list of commands.
There should be one to show debug info, something like "show all-info" or "dmesg"

If you can get this info, post it here.

Tried multiple working cables and tested them with my Ethernet tester.

How do I telenet into it? hardwire?
when I type in ? i get this.

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Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6002]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Kyle>ipconfig ?

Error: unrecognized or incomplete command line.

USAGE:
    ipconfig [/allcompartments] [/? | /all |
                                 /renew [adapter] | /release [adapter] |
                                 /renew6 [adapter] | /release6 [adapter] |
                                 /flushdns | /displaydns | /registerdns |
                                 /showclassid adapter |
                                 /setclassid adapter [classid] ]

where
    adapter             Connection name
                       (wildcard characters * and ? allowed, see examples)

    Options:
       /?               Display this help message
       /all             Display full configuration information.
       /allcompartments Display information for all compartments.
       /release         Release the IPv4 address for the specified adapter.
       /release6        Release the IPv6 address for the specified adapter.
       /renew           Renew the IPv4 address for the specified adapter.
       /renew6          Renew the IPv6 address for the specified adapter.
       /flushdns        Purges the DNS Resolver cache.
       /registerdns     Refreshes all DHCP leases and re-registers DNS names
       /displaydns      Display the contents of the DNS Resolver Cache.
       /showclassid     Displays all the dhcp class IDs allowed for adapter.
       /setclassid      Modifies the dhcp class id.

The default is to display only the IP address, subnet mask and
default gateway for each adapter bound to TCP/IP.

For Release and Renew, if no adapter name is specified, then the IP address
leases for all adapters bound to TCP/IP will be released or renewed.

For Setclassid, if no ClassId is specified, then the ClassId is removed.

Examples:
    > ipconfig                       ... Show information
    > ipconfig /all                  ... Show detailed information
    > ipconfig /renew                ... renew all adapters
    > ipconfig /renew EL*            ... renew any connection that has its
                                         name starting with EL
    > ipconfig /release *Con*        ... release all matching connections,
                                         eg. "Local Area Connection 1" or
                                             "Local Area Connection 2"
    > ipconfig /allcompartments      ... Show information about all
                                         compartments
    > ipconfig /allcompartments /all ... Show detailed information about all
                                         compartments

C:\Users\Kyle>

and if I type in the all command i get this

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Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6002]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Kyle>ipconfig ?

Error: unrecognized or incomplete command line.

USAGE:
    ipconfig [/allcompartments] [/? | /all |
                                 /renew [adapter] | /release [adapter] |
                                 /renew6 [adapter] | /release6 [adapter] |
                                 /flushdns | /displaydns | /registerdns |
                                 /showclassid adapter |
                                 /setclassid adapter [classid] ]

where
    adapter             Connection name
                       (wildcard characters * and ? allowed, see examples)

    Options:
       /?               Display this help message
       /all             Display full configuration information.
       /allcompartments Display information for all compartments.
       /release         Release the IPv4 address for the specified adapter.
       /release6        Release the IPv6 address for the specified adapter.
       /renew           Renew the IPv4 address for the specified adapter.
       /renew6          Renew the IPv6 address for the specified adapter.
       /flushdns        Purges the DNS Resolver cache.
       /registerdns     Refreshes all DHCP leases and re-registers DNS names
       /displaydns      Display the contents of the DNS Resolver Cache.
       /showclassid     Displays all the dhcp class IDs allowed for adapter.
       /setclassid      Modifies the dhcp class id.

The default is to display only the IP address, subnet mask and
default gateway for each adapter bound to TCP/IP.

For Release and Renew, if no adapter name is specified, then the IP address
leases for all adapters bound to TCP/IP will be released or renewed.

For Setclassid, if no ClassId is specified, then the ClassId is removed.

Examples:
    > ipconfig                       ... Show information
    > ipconfig /all                  ... Show detailed information
    > ipconfig /renew                ... renew all adapters
    > ipconfig /renew EL*            ... renew any connection that has its
                                         name starting with EL
    > ipconfig /release *Con*        ... release all matching connections,
                                         eg. "Local Area Connection 1" or
                                             "Local Area Connection 2"
    > ipconfig /allcompartments      ... Show information about all
                                         compartments
    > ipconfig /allcompartments /all ... Show detailed information about all
                                         compartments

C:\Users\Kyle>

[Major_A]

The second command still says: ipconfig ?. When you run a ping how many pings are you running, the default number? If you type ping 192.168.2.1(or whatever your router IP is) -n 50 it will ping the router 50 times. As far as I know you can adjust the number to anything you want.

Example:

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ping 192.168.2.1 -n 50

The more pings the better chance of seeing the issue. The default number of 5 isn't as good of an indicator, my opinion.

[kylepaddock]

ok, here are my pings
PC to Router

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Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Kyle>ping 192.168.10.1 -n 20

Pinging 192.168.10.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.10.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.10.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.10.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.10.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.10.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.10.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.10.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.10.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.10.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.10.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.10.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.10.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.10.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.10.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.10.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.10.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.10.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.10.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.10.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.10.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Ping statistics for 192.168.10.1:
    Packets: Sent = 20, Received = 20, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Users\Kyle>

PC to Antenna

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Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Kyle>ping 192.168.100.1 -n 20

Pinging 192.168.100.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.100.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.100.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.100.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.100.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.100.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.100.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.100.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.100.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.100.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.100.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.100.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.100.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.100.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.100.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.100.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.100.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.100.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.100.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.100.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63
Reply from 192.168.100.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=63

Ping statistics for 192.168.100.1:
    Packets: Sent = 20, Received = 20, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Users\Kyle>

PC to Internet Provider

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Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.


C:\Users\Kyle>ping 208.91.6.1 -n 20

Pinging 208.91.6.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 208.91.6.1: bytes=32 time=96ms TTL=253
Reply from 208.91.6.1: bytes=32 time=102ms TTL=253
Reply from 208.91.6.1: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=253
Reply from 208.91.6.1: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=253
Reply from 208.91.6.1: bytes=32 time=154ms TTL=253
Reply from 208.91.6.1: bytes=32 time=195ms TTL=253
Reply from 208.91.6.1: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=253
Reply from 208.91.6.1: bytes=32 time=152ms TTL=253
Reply from 208.91.6.1: bytes=32 time=172ms TTL=253
Reply from 208.91.6.1: bytes=32 time=124ms TTL=253
Reply from 208.91.6.1: bytes=32 time=176ms TTL=253
Reply from 208.91.6.1: bytes=32 time=100ms TTL=253
Reply from 208.91.6.1: bytes=32 time=65ms TTL=253
Reply from 208.91.6.1: bytes=32 time=127ms TTL=253
Reply from 208.91.6.1: bytes=32 time=69ms TTL=253
Reply from 208.91.6.1: bytes=32 time=167ms TTL=253
Reply from 208.91.6.1: bytes=32 time=56ms TTL=253
Reply from 208.91.6.1: bytes=32 time=70ms TTL=253
Reply from 208.91.6.1: bytes=32 time=178ms TTL=253
Reply from 208.91.6.1: bytes=32 time=54ms TTL=253

Ping statistics for 208.91.6.1:
    Packets: Sent = 20, Received = 20, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 29ms, Maximum = 195ms, Average = 112ms

C:\Users\Kyle>

[Major_A]

You're pinging the same IP, the router in each of those tests. Unless I missed something else...

Try pingplotter with the machine that is affected the most. It should tell you where the problem is. Back in the day when I played MoH:AA all the time I started getting issues connecting to our server. Turns out it was a bad node between my PC and my clan's server. Found this out with pingplotter (contacted Roadrunner) and it was resolved in less than a week.

http://www.pingplotter.com/freeware.html

[kylepaddock]

I have the issues on all the computers. edited the errors

[kenc51]

How do I telenet into it? hardwire?

Type the following in a command prompt

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telnet 192.168.10.1

[kylepaddock]

Is says that it is a unrecognizable code.

[kenc51]

Is says that it is a unrecognizable code.

ahh, your using vista or win 7

You need to install "telnet" first - goto add/remove programs, then "add windows features" on the left
Can you get a loan of another router to test with?