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Your Opinion - Best Video Card in Consideration

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I'm currently building a new pc...
Asus M2N32 SLI Deluxe
AMD Athlon x2 4600+ (skt am2)
2GB Corsair XMS2 PC6400
2x WD 250GB SATA2 7200rpm 16mb
1x Seagate 400GB SATA2 7200rpm 16mb
Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Pro
Leadtek Winfast TV2000XP Tuner
Antec P180 Mid Tower Case
Antec NeoHE 550W PSU
2x NEC N3550A DVD/CD Burners
Random Floppy Drive
Windows XP Pro

The only thing that I haven't decided on is a video card. I'm currently looking at the Nvidia 7900GTX or the ATI x1900xtx/x1950xtx...

To be completely honest I can't decide. What do you guys think is the best video card, considering gaming performance, price, and future capatability (Vista, SLI/Crossfire, DX10 :rolleyes: )
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What kind of cooling you looking at. If you water cool then i would go with the x1950xtx. If your on air then the 7900gtx.
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Thats an interesting way of choosing a graphics card, never thought about it like that before!

I'll be getting a P180 too, and am going to attempt to cram water cooling into it, so if you're interested I'll let you know how it goes.

As far as future lastability goes, its a tough one to call right now, as you probably know DX10 cards are just round the corner, but if rumours are to be believed the G80 (nvidia) will only dedicate 1/3 of its proccesing power to DX10 (as it will have dedicated DX9 and dedicated DX10 pipelines that cannot be changed between the two) so will not have very much power in DX10 games (but will have DX9 speed). While the ATI card (R600) will have something called Unified shader architecture which means that the shaders can be programmed and will be able to switch from DX10 or DX9 use, so should be alot faster than the G80 in DX10 (and possibly DX9), but wont be released until january.

Also both these cards are rumoured to be consuming 175W (G80) and 200W (R600) of power per card, if thats a concern then get the best DX9 card you can now and wait to see how it pans out (The 7900GTX is still more 'power effcient' compared to the x1900xtx/x1950xtx.)

Back to your original question; right now if you want pure speed, go for the x1950xtx. If cost is an issue the cheapest of the 3 will do just fine (not sure which it is right now). If you decide to get the x1900xtx, you will want an aftermarket cooler (air or water), as the original is very loud. As far as performance differences go, check out the recent article on legitreviews of the x1950xtx.

Also what resolution do you plan to be gaming at?

I know its alot to take in, but there are alot of factors right now :P

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First off, just got my P180 in the mail...oh man, that case is sweet.

Well, I'm going to be using Air Cooling. (Unless I'm really unsatisfied with cooling, I prolly won't be messing with water cooling)

I'll currently being playing at 1024x768 until I finally update to a bigger monitor, which will probably be 1280x1024. (Not for a while)

I don't know enough about video cards to separate the 7900gtx and x1950xtx by the mass of reviews I've read. They both have relatively decent reviews and both have all round high fps records...

Still searching.

P.S. I'd love to see what ordering, possibly change my selections :D . Also, let me know how the watercooling turns out.
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One more question:

Will the Asus M2N32 SLI Deluxe support Crossfire?

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No, you cant have crossfire on an SLi board. There are hacked drivers that will allow you to run SLi on a Crossfire board (oposite to what you said), but those are unoffical and not supported by ATI or Nvidia.

If you are only planning on gaming at 1280 x 1024 then I would reccomend the x1950xtx (as it wins in most if not all of the benchmarks at that resolution in the LR article), also ATI cards have a better visual filtering system than nvidia, and can support HDR and AA at the same time. It could possibly be overkill for this resolution but if you have the money for it, you wont regret getting it.

However, if you are planning on running a dual GPU solution, which i wouldnt reccommend for just 1280 x 1024 (or less), it would be best to go with Nvidia, as they have better scaling results with more than one card.

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One x1950xtx will work fine on the mobo correct?
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yes... and with the new copper heat sink on the X1950XTX it run great on air too... Not sure I'd water cool one as I love the new heatsink.
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If you're planning to play at 1024x768 for a while as you stated I would seriously consider buying something to "get you by" until you do decide to upgrade to 1280x1024 or higher. With the way ATI and NVIDIA are launching cards it doesn't cost much to get a card to play games well at 1024x768. I would highly consider picking up an XFX 7900 GS and overclock it. Then when you do upgrade your display evaluate the market and see about getting something with a little more power.

A 7900GTX and X1950XTX are overkill for almost any game out today running at 1024x768.

Normally I wouldn't recommend a specific brand but we had great results overclocking it, as well as other websites.

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By DMB2000uk As far as future lastability goes, its a tough one to call right now, as you probably know DX10 cards are just round the corner, but if rumours are to be believed the G80 (nvidia) will only dedicate 1/3 of its proccesing power to DX10 (as it will have dedicated DX9 and dedicated DX10 pipelines that cannot be changed between the two) so will not have very much power in DX10 games (but will have DX9 speed). While the ATI card (R600) will have something called Unified shader architecture which means that the shaders can be programmed and will be able to switch from DX10 or DX9 use, so should be alot faster than the G80 in DX10 (and possibly DX9), but wont be released until january.

Also both these cards are rumoured to be consuming 175W (G80) and 200W (R600) of power per card, if thats a concern then get the best DX9 card you can now and wait to see how it pans out (The 7900GTX is still more 'power effcient' compared to the x1900xtx/x1950xtx.)
Ok, sorry to have this problem here but whats the big deal with DX10. I have never had a problem with AGP pro card in a DX9 enviroment. Same with my current card the NVidia RIVA TNT2 card. I doubt you will need a DX10 card for the best gameplay. That IMO is just a way for companies to make more money saying you have to upgrade. Thats like when i was told i needed to buy a whole ne PC for Windows XP Professional. It ran fine on a 98' computer and does on this 02' computer. I hate when i see "DX10 card" and "Vista Ready". Pssht.

And about the PSU. Yeah the future of cards is going to be energy consuming. Id say normal Dells will have a 1kW PSU standard pretty soon here. The reason i use dell as an example is because they are known for their upgrade ability. But it is normal for the average person to have 3 HDDs, a powerful CPU, like three 120mm fans, SLI/Crossfire, and even lights. So the PSUs are going to increase in wattage until this Vista and Dual GPUs is behind us. Pretty soon we will have dual core GPUs and that will end the SLI/Crossfire Era.

(BTW if you forget about Vista and try a nice linux distro [such as gentoo], there will be a good chance there is a DX10 emulator for all of you gmers.)
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Get a mid-ranged card like the one mentioned above (7900GS)
That will run all the current games very well at 1280x1024

Then after you upgrade to a larger monitor DX10 will be out and you can sell the 7900GS and get a DX10 card.

NV are rumored to have the G80 chip (dx10) out in Nov and ATI will have their (even faster) dx10 card in Jan.
Be aware that the next gen cards will consume ALOT of power (as Dan said), so get a very good PSU

DX10 will allow ALOT better gfx in games and will be worth the wait.......IF Vista finally gets stable and is released

A X1950 would be overkill with a mid sized monitor.........
Another consideration is the older x1900xt (if you don't care about dx10). They have dropped in price alot recently..........I'm even considering getting a x1900 master card and going XFire
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Sounds like a plan. :drinkers:
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Why not the XFX 7950GT. It was just reviewed and LR gave it a big thumbs up.

http://forums.legitreviews.com/viewtopic.php?t=6549
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