Physical Memory Dump Blue Screen Help

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:10 pm

Ok so I have no overclock enabled on anything on the 8800 gts or the core 2 duo e6400 or the 2x1gb gskill ddr800 ram. but something is causing it to blue screen after gaming for a while. I haven't run orthos or anything to check that yet but was wondering what the problem might be since this isn't my computer i'm not looking at it right now but i'll be going to help him out later as I built the thing.

maj0r_pawnage · Post by **maj0r_pawnage** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:23 pm

what psu do you have ?

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:18 pm

the corsair 520watt

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:28 pm

I turned up the fan speed and told him to run orthos all night to double check ram/cpu stability. Told him to game hard for a while then run orthos while he slept i'll get some results from him later and we'll see if it just was a fluke or the temps were high. Though I got temp readings on the gfx at 58C under load seemed reasonable. And never saw the cpu over 75F(24 C or so) I told him to take a pic or write down error code if he got it again to. so this will be updated later, or not if he no longer has the problems.

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:24 pm

Ok so it didn't crash at all during gaming last night, but it did today. No blue screen just a lock up that required a restart. The computer hasn't blue screened and i'm not sure about orthos. As he left it running and when he woke up his computer was off. 3 things, the power could have gone out shortly (doubt it), mom could have shut it down (doubt it), or the computer could have crashed and shut down?( maybe). Don't computers usually restart when that happens, not just turn off. I'm sort of lost on this one. Someone had this problem before? List of Parts Only things different are dicecca's reccomendations on psu/mobo, and a different case.

Sparky · Post by **Sparky** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:16 pm

I just ordered an EVGA 8800GTS 640mb, so I've been following this post closely
Does anybody know if the problems dgood is having are driver issues? I see on NVIDIA site that the 8800 series requires different drivers that all their other cards.

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:16 pm

Dumping Physical Memory, it won't stay up long enough for us to get a good error code. Change Page file sizes? will that help?

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:11 am

R-Click My Computer, goto properties, then advanced, then Startup & Recovery. Untick "Automatic restart"

This will allow you to read the text on the BSOD.

x0dyssey · Post by **x0dyssey** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:13 am

you can also read the dump file with a little utility that escapes my mind right now. it also gives you a good idea of waht caused it.

EDIT:

a few things to try....

Test the memory: http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
and check the hard drive, i dont have a freeware utility for this.
and some more info on teh BSOD http://aumha.org/a/stop.htm

and as always
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysint ... index.mspx

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:03 pm

ok so I got up here to look at my friends computer again so heres and update. It seems after looking through the evert viewer we have an error with nv04_dsp which is the nvidia display driver I believe and thats a stop error so somethign is wrong with teh 8800gts driver. Also though I see an error that has no specification with it that has shown up a lot .
It is considered a 'System Error'
Catagory: (102)
Event ID: 1003

Description: Error code 1000008e, parameter1 c0000005, parameter2 bf9f3f0f, parameter3 b9dbb824, parameter4 00000000.

Post by **dicecca112** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:16 pm

download driver cleaner pro. Completely uninstall the nvidia drivers with it. Download the latest Nvidia drivers from Nvidia's site. Reinstall drivers. Wait and see.

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:19 pm

we had the newest nvidia driver installed.

Post by **dicecca112** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:20 pm

well in that case it may have not installed 100% correctly reinstall, and make sure you have all your updates installed as well

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:50 am

man we are at wits end, no matter what we do, how we uninstall/reinstall error is still occuring. maybe it's something else causing it though it claims to be thet.

moon111 · Post by **moon111** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:48 am

Just curious, is this only happening during gaming? In different games or just one game? Maybe the visual settings in the game are a little too ambitious? There's one game I play, look at Windows Task Manager, the game will just gobble up more and more memory the longer I play.

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:37 pm

well it is multiple games that will crash and it's an error with the driver so it claims so I think i'm going to reformat it after backing up his stuff (since I just built it) and install the version of everything off the cd for the graphics again and i'll get some new sound drivers or nforce drivers off the net to see if they have been updated, and between the two hopefully I'll fix the problem. Any other ideas? Anyone heard of problems with the nv4_dsp.dll? with 8800gts 320mb?

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:39 pm

So we did driver cleaner, got the 100.95 force wares and they seemed to work better. We are no longer seeing blue screens. now just randomly usually far into the game or such it just freezes. It's my impression in the past that ram usually causes these freezes. However We ran orthos for 8+ hrs and saw no errors. I'm at a loss. I either will need to reformat it and try it again which I expect to see the same issues or something blatantly wrong I am missing. Anyone had this problem or have more ideas?

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:44 pm

I do have it running mem test off of my ubuntu cd right now.

Edit: 1 hr later and exactly two passes of memtest. with 0 errors it is not the memory. As was easy to assume since it isn't even running at its tightest timings. 4-4-4-12, its auto at 5-5-5-15. AIght so what do you think? reformat? or say the graphics card has problems. man this is frustrating. we could try a different gfx to see if it will work with another gfx. Then we'll know it is either overheating which I find impossible on stock. or it is just bad which would suprise me as it is running fine for a couple hours before it happens usually though sometimes it'll lock up right away.

Gamble · Post by **Gamble** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:31 pm

youve got me stumped....hardware issue sounds like to me....

NAiLs · Post by **NAiLs** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:08 am

I'm glad you posted this.

My notebook has been getting BSoD's as of late. My notebook has a 7800 Go. I know how to reproduce the errors, but only while playing Flight Simulator X. The only other game that I play that either randomly crashes, just randomly closes itself, or gives me a BSoD is WoW. I haven't been able to read the BSoD, but did disable automatic restarts and will reproduce (or attempt to anyway) my BSoD in FSX on Tuesday.

I'm on a fairly fresh reformat using a Tweaks R Us Forceware 97.44 driver. It's the only video driver that was installed on this reformat. The driver is using stock NVidia settings and not the tweaked settings. The only reason why I use these drivers is due to NVidia's lack of support for the Go series graphics cards.

I'm leaning towards my problem being a problem with the video card if anything. I guess my question is, are there memory testers for video cards?

But I guess before I jump to conclusion, I will reproduce the error and let you know what's up on my end.