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Newly Discovered Vista Error!
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:50 pm
by Methious
I think I had this error once.

Re: Newly Discovered Vista Error!
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:01 pm
by vicaphit
There should be a "restore to xp" button on that!
Re: Newly Discovered Vista Error!
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:32 pm
by DMB2000uk
That's giving you an option to get out of the mess that is vista, vista wouldn't let you do that
Dan
Re: Newly Discovered Vista Error!
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:17 pm
by dicecca112

another Vista bashing thread. Guys its getting old.
Re: Newly Discovered Vista Error!
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:21 pm
by martini161
HORAY FOR VISTA BASHING! this is from an onion article. i loled
Microsoft Vista Released
Microsoft released its new operating system, Vista, on Jan. 30. Here are some of its features:
Microsoft Word's helpful paper-clip icon now blinks at rate of normal humans
Enhanced graphics on "System Is Not Responding" pop-up window
Five new card-back designs for Solitaire
Something that Apple would never, ever dream up in a billion years
4,391 security flaws to be patched over next 15 years
Promise of broad, open-minded future or some bulls**t
Lists blocked wireless connections with greater speed and accuracy
New operating system, same old Microsoft Paint
heres the original
http://www.theonion.com/content/infogra ... a_released
Re: Newly Discovered Vista Error!
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:55 pm
by stev
Re: Newly Discovered Vista Error!
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:59 pm
by Methious
I actually have nothing against Vista, it'll mature. Just like every other operating system they can't plan on every combination of hardware/software out there and have problems. I've got it on some customers machines and they haven't had a lot of problems (some cross platform networking issues) but their not real adventurous enthusiast users.
Experience tells me that the more complicated state of the art systems running the newest programs, especially games, experience many more problems than mom and pops surfing and balancing their checkbooks. I got my degree in programming and I know the headaches they go through, believe me every day there's a team of people looking at errors and scratching their heads wondering how we induced them. On the flip side they have to look at the cost benefit analysis of solving a particular problem. If it's an error with an obscure piece of equipment forget it, if it's an error running a well know business application their on it pronto. When it comes down to it many times it's the hardware designers causing a lot of the problems, they say a piece of equipment is Vista compatible because they wrote a patch driver for a piece of equipment not designed to run under Vista or incorrectly interpreted Vistas' hardware specifications. If you ask me it's a miracle they run as well as they do under any operating system.
In the mean time it's dual boot for me, I need the stability/reliability of XP, and the ability to work on Vista when needed.
Re: Newly Discovered Vista Error!
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:42 am
by Sovereign
I LOLed, but I also am an exclusive Vista user. Aside from the stupidly high RAM requirements (2GB+) for smooth operation, I have no complaints. I have yet to run into something that I cannot make work. The built-in Windows Complete PC Restore allowed me to get out of a sticky spot in 15 minutes, and has the potential to replace "reformat, reinstall once a year." Instead, I will simply re-image back to "clean" if my system acts sluggish or stupid.
Re: Newly Discovered Vista Error!
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:31 am
by vicaphit
my problem with vista wasn't the number of updates released, but the fact that I couldnt update!
error after error upon installing updates. I reverted back to xp, saw gains in FPS for all of my games, all of my old programs worked, and even some of my hardware worked again!
Re: Newly Discovered Vista Error!
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:51 pm
by Methious
I had a large base of games installed in XP so I didn't mess with games to much in Vista. It updated ok for me, so far I've had it on two machines, one HP and my old Asus M2N-E ran fine on both. Like previously stated insane memory requirements but ran fine. I just wish they'd stop messing with the control panel and moving things. Leave every thing they can where it was and put new features in a separate section of control panel.
I never tried the Windows Complete PC Restore, I did successfully Ghost (ver 12) it to a spare hard drive, booted to the spare drive with no loss (had to re-enter AVG anti-virus key). Saved a drive for my copy of Vista Ultimate on the new build. Still people have a negative perception of it because I advertise a lot of systems in the paper and they always ask if it's Vista and say that they've heard a lot of bad things about it. Remember when XP came out, same thing happened and now people swear by it. I get a lot asking me to install XP on Vista Machines, so far one wanting to go to Vista (was cost prohibitive to upgrade).
Vista does have a heck of a game of Chess! (Might have been HP specific?) I could live with out AERO though, just resource eating eye candy. When I get more time I'll put it back on the new build dual boot.
Re: Newly Discovered Vista Error!
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:07 pm
by vicaphit
You could always turn AERO off, though aero is the only cool thing about vista... otherwise I hate it.
Re: Newly Discovered Vista Error!
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:03 am
by kenc51
I can't use VISTA reliably with my NAS. The NAS is Linux based and uses SMB (SAMBA) or FTP to share files with M$ PC's.
When I used VISTA I would just loose connectivity with the NAS and I lost about ~150GB of data when I thought I was moving files when VISTA was corrupting them instead
I used to get ~12MB/sec throughput from VISTA to the NAS, with XP I get ~28MB/sec + throughput.
I also had issues with VISTA when Firefox would occasionally freeze and the screen would go white. I would have to wait for ~2-3mins for it to respond.
I tried VISTA with SP1 as well, but it didn't help. I will switch to VISTA, but not for another 6mths or so.
The only thing VISTA has going for it is DX10.......it's nice, but to me it's not worth the hassle. I don't play games enough to justify it
Re: Newly Discovered Vista Error!
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:24 am
by Methious
I did have FireFox lock ups on Vista I had forgotten about them. I just need an installed copy to better support customers, probably not going to more than play with it until it matures a little. With it's stiff requirements it'll be a long time before people stop running XP and migrate en-mass. Too many machines just won't run it. Makes a guy wonder why they made such radical changes knowing they would be cut off from a lot of legacy hardware and software. I can understand the need to break from the established path to move forward with the field but I don't really see it as a quantum leap in technology. It doesn't do any thing more for me than XP does.