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Looks Like Intel Is Locking LGA 1160 Mainstreams

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:07 am
by Methious
Looks like info on the LGA 1160 processors being locked is starting to leak.

Source: http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?optio ... 5&Itemid=1


No easy workaround

As we told you some time ago, Intel has put in what can only be called an overclocking lock in the upcoming LGA1160 processors which are currently going under the codenames of Lynnfield and Havendale.

Until now, we didn't know how this had been implemented, but we've learned some more about it and it looks like there is no easy workaround. As these processors have the memory controller and a few more bits integrated into the CPU itself, Intel suddenly has a lot more control than it has had with past designs that utilized a separate chipset which contains the memory controller.

As Intel seems to want to push the much more expensive Bloomfield platform to overclockers, the company implemented a lock that prevents these new processors from being overclocked by adding two PLL clock generators, one inside the CPU itself and one in the PCH.

This might not sound like it's a big problem in itself, but what Intel has done is that these two will clock generators will reference each other; and this means that just changing the bus speed won't have any effect if you're trying to overclock the CPU as it will dissregard the information from the PCH if it's not a correct value.

There might still be options for overclocking these CPU's, but our understanding is that this isn't easily done and Intel doesn't want it to be, and as such Intel is unlikely to give out this information to third-party motherboard manufacturers.

The sum of all this is that Intel might lose out a few enthusiast users that don't have deep enough pockets to get a Bloomfield system to AMD, which might not be a bad thing for AMD in the end.

Re: Looks Like Intel Is Locking LGA 1160 Mainstreams

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:42 am
by martini161
well its not like the old FSB chips are going to be obsolete right away, so thats what im going to be sticking with

Re: Looks Like Intel Is Locking LGA 1160 Mainstreams

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:16 am
by Sovereign
I hope Fudzilla's wrong on this one. If they do that, CPUs like the Q6600 won't exist anymore (budget, overclocks like hell) and Intel will be doing themselves a disservice unless the "enthusiast" CPUs are EXTREMELY well worth their inflated cost.

Re: Looks Like Intel Is Locking LGA 1160 Mainstreams

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:40 am
by dicecca112
Theses rumors popped up just the same when AMD implemented "FSB" on chip, just like Intel is doing. All this is really saying, is Fudzilla is never right, and you won't be able to OC on Intel boards, like always, and a third party company probably Asus will find a way to OC these chips

Re: Looks Like Intel Is Locking LGA 1160 Mainstreams

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:44 am
by Methious
I hope Fudzilla is wrong, after 10 years of struggling to get 300Mhz more out of AMDs then have Intel yank the good OC capabilities I've come to enjoy that just wouldn't be right.

I'm probably getting a faster FSB chip 45nm type this year, but instead of selling the q6600 I might shelf it.

Re: Looks Like Intel Is Locking LGA 1160 Mainstreams

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:20 am
by DMB2000uk
Looks like it would be a good idea to get 45nm quads and not upgrade till the 'kinks' have been sorted out with LGA 1160.

Dan

Re: Looks Like Intel Is Locking LGA 1160 Mainstreams

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:34 am
by dicecca112
DMB2000uk wrote:Looks like it would be a good idea to get 45nm quads and not upgrade till the 'kinks' have been sorted out with LGA 1160.

Dan
Well you never want to be a first adaptor, let the kinks get worked out like you said, prices come down, then jump on. Unless you have the money and patience

Re: Looks Like Intel Is Locking LGA 1160 Mainstreams

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:48 pm
by martini161
dicecca112 wrote:
DMB2000uk wrote:Looks like it would be a good idea to get 45nm quads and not upgrade till the 'kinks' have been sorted out with LGA 1160.

Dan
Well you never want to be a first adaptor, let the kinks get worked out like you said, prices come down, then jump on. Unless you have the money and patience
what you guys are saying is like the exact echo of what i said in this thread 8) http://forums.legitreviews.com/about15325.html

Re: Looks Like Intel Is Locking LGA 1160 Mainstreams

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:29 pm
by DMB2000uk
Well you know it must be a good idea then :P

Dan