Asus M3N78 PRO Barebone Kit on Tiger

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Asus M3N78 PRO Barebone Kit on Tiger

Post by blitz121 » Sun May 31, 2009 3:43 pm

Hey guys I saw this Barebones and was thinking about getting it but if I do remember AMD was having some problems with it's processors. But that was awhile back. So is there any go's or no goes before purchasing. (I plan on using this for gaming i.e Crysis, COD WAW and 4. CS, UT. etc)

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Re: Asus M3N78 PRO Barebone Kit on Tiger

Post by blitz121 » Sun May 31, 2009 3:47 pm

blitz121 wrote:Hey guys I saw this Barebones and was thinking about getting it but if I do remember AMD was having some problems with it's processors. But that was awhile back. So is there any go's or no goes before purchasing. (I plan on using this for gaming i.e Crysis, COD WAW and 4. CS, UT. etc)
link http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... u=B69-0083

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Re: Asus M3N78 PRO Barebone Kit on Tiger

Post by stopthekilling77 » Sun May 31, 2009 4:14 pm

Much better combo deal on newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDeal ... mbo.194454

faster CPU, GPU, and all-around better value per dollar spent. still not super capable at Crysis, but its a good place to start. I'd try to sell the video card when you get it, and then use that cash to buy a better graphics card
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Re: Asus M3N78 PRO Barebone Kit on Tiger

Post by blitz121 » Sun May 31, 2009 4:16 pm

Yeah I just wanted a better CPU. Like the quad core or would it just be the graphics card I could do?
Edit: Or would Quad core not help me out any?

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Re: Asus M3N78 PRO Barebone Kit on Tiger

Post by hercules71185 » Sun May 31, 2009 5:15 pm

ok, if you want a budget gaming rig, instead of getting a quad and a cheaper GPU, spend more on the GPU and less on the CPU. Get a GTX 260 or HD 4870 and a nice dual core wolfdale. For gaming quads are nice but don't skimp on your graphics card.
Either get a e5200 like I did and overclock it to 4.0. OR get an E7400 and clock it to the same. If you want quad just for the sake of having one. Get a nice cooler and the original Q6600.
Also don't be afraid to look up specials on Newegg.com and tigerdirect. I've used open box and re certified deals and the stuff still works. I've built systems that are now 5 years old using open egg newegg deals and they still work today.

To give you an example.
Q6600 and 9600Gt
VS
e5200 and GTX 260

If you encode media then the Q6600 is your best bet. If you game the obvious choice is the GTX 260 package.

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Post by stopthekilling77 » Sun May 31, 2009 8:14 pm

hercules is right, and thats why i suggest the newegg combo over either, its a dual core CPU based on the Phenom II architecture and its a (small) step up GPU-wise.
combo deals are nice, but i'd suggest parting out individual pieces, it will give your budget more leeway.
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Re: Asus M3N78 PRO Barebone Kit on Tiger

Post by blitz121 » Sun May 31, 2009 8:31 pm

yeah well kinda a noob at encoding and stuff but I wanted a 260 GTX. But what would be the best CPU for AMD? not a big fan of intel

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Re: Asus M3N78 PRO Barebone Kit on Tiger

Post by ibleet » Sun May 31, 2009 10:32 pm

I would choose Intel over AMD for gaming any day of the week.

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Post by blitz121 » Sun May 31, 2009 10:34 pm

ibleet wrote:I would choose Intel over AMD for gaming any day of the week.
it's just that I know more about AMD than Intel

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Post by stopthekilling77 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:32 am

ibleet wrote:I would choose Intel over AMD for gaming any day of the week.
When push comes to shove, any decent-clocked AMD x2 or up will game well with a decent graphics card, at a lower price-point. Difference between a few framerates doesn't cut it when cost-effective spending is involved, so I recommend people to take what they can afford and work versus something that pushes budgets and doesn't kill their gaming capability. :dunno:
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Re: Asus M3N78 PRO Barebone Kit on Tiger

Post by hercules71185 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:50 am

blitz121 wrote:
ibleet wrote:I would choose Intel over AMD for gaming any day of the week.
it's just that I know more about AMD than Intel
I was an AMD fanboi since back in the day when they first made the AMD 1800+. From that day all the way until the X2 series. Even when Intel was crushing them I decided to stay with AMD in hopes they would return. But, they are just too far ahead right now and AMD needs to straighten it out and get it moving again.

Now I own an intel. lol. It took a little getting used to but, you will not care after you switch.

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Re: Asus M3N78 PRO Barebone Kit on Tiger

Post by hercules71185 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:52 am

stopthekilling77 wrote:
ibleet wrote:I would choose Intel over AMD for gaming any day of the week.
When push comes to shove, any decent-clocked AMD x2 or up will game well with a decent graphics card, at a lower price-point. Difference between a few framerates doesn't cut it when cost-effective spending is involved, so I recommend people to take what they can afford and work versus something that pushes budgets and doesn't kill their gaming capability. :dunno:
I had a brisbane clocked at 2.8 from 1.8. When I switched CPUs just to the simple E6600 @ stock speeds my frame rate shot up and stuttering went down. It was the first time that I saw how smooth a PC can run games.

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Re: Asus M3N78 PRO Barebone Kit on Tiger

Post by stopthekilling77 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:02 pm

hercules71185 wrote:
stopthekilling77 wrote:
ibleet wrote:I would choose Intel over AMD for gaming any day of the week.
When push comes to shove, any decent-clocked AMD x2 or up will game well with a decent graphics card, at a lower price-point. Difference between a few framerates doesn't cut it when cost-effective spending is involved, so I recommend people to take what they can afford and work versus something that pushes budgets and doesn't kill their gaming capability. :dunno:
I had a brisbane clocked at 2.8 from 1.8. When I switched CPUs just to the simple E6600 @ stock speeds my frame rate shot up and stuttering went down. It was the first time that I saw how smooth a PC can run games.
Considering the 7750 x2 is Kuma core, theres a big difference between your old brisbane and it, but I can get where you're coming from.
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Re: Asus M3N78 PRO Barebone Kit on Tiger

Post by blitz121 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:24 pm

Well I like some of the older games too so another question that comes to mind. I know I want 64 bit system but Vista or XP

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Re: Asus M3N78 PRO Barebone Kit on Tiger

Post by Skippman » Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:28 pm

How much RAM?

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Re: Asus M3N78 PRO Barebone Kit on Tiger

Post by hercules71185 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:18 pm

I don't know why, but when I read your post skipp. I was thinking of my hard drive sitting on my desk. It's a 1GB And at the time it was one of the biggest ones. And I was thinking about 1TB today. And since 15 years ago our biggest hard drive wasn't enough to run a common game. How would it be in another 15.(Yes I know of Moore's law)

System Specs I'm guessing
5ghz 8 core processors.
16GB ram for gaming
Video cards with Bandwidth exceeding 20TB/sec
10TB hard drives.

But, if you go by the last 15 and actually used a scale it would be like
32 core CPU @ 50GHz
4TB RAM
Video cards with a bandwidth of 2 million TB/sec
and 5 million TB hard drives.


So to the OP just make a system like one of those above... lol..

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Re: Asus M3N78 PRO Barebone Kit on Tiger

Post by blitz121 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:47 pm

8 gigs of ram

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Re: Asus M3N78 PRO Barebone Kit on Tiger

Post by stopthekilling77 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:48 pm

blitz121 wrote:8 gigs of ram
Use the Windows 7 Release Candidate, saves $ on buying a license, and when 7 comes out in October, you'll be glad you didn't drop $200 on a Vista license a few months earlier
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Post by Major_A » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:10 pm

The problem there is once he decides to buy Windows 7 there is no 64-bit update option only fresh installations (and you can't go from Ultimate to Home). So after having several months to setup his computer he's going to have to format it and start all over.

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Re: Asus M3N78 PRO Barebone Kit on Tiger

Post by blitz121 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:21 pm

yeah well I thought about XP 64 bit but I have heard companies really don't put drivers and other things along with it. I mean if I could get my Video card to work along with every game I want to play I would go with XP just because I dont like vista

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