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Need input for system I'm building

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:57 pm
by Racerboyf1
I'm building a system for a buddy of mine and want some input as far as choices I've made. We are going to set it up for use mainly as a racing simulator. Here is what I have so far, let me know any changes you guys would make. Thanks!

Antec Nine Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31500341AS 1.5TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
SAPPHIRE 100282-3CODSR Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Powersupply
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMP6GX3M3A1600C8
ASUS P6X58D Premium LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Model BX80601930
LITE-ON Black BD-COMBO SATA Model ihes108-29 - OEM
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM

Re: Need input for system I'm building

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:22 pm
by skier
i can't argue against a single one of those parts, great choices!

only thing is make sure you know the TX750 has a ton of cables

Re: Need input for system I'm building

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:29 pm
by smack323
Maybe a SSD drive for a boot drive. They have really come down in price the last couple months.

Re: Need input for system I'm building

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:41 pm
by Wavid
skier wrote:i can't argue against a single one of those parts, great choices!

only thing is make sure you know the TX750 has a ton of cables
You could always get an HX750. Exactly the same (cept the price) plus, it's modular too.

Re: Need input for system I'm building

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:05 pm
by skier
only thing i dont like about a boot drive is that everything gets more complicated, though reinstalling windows becomes a snap :-k

depends how savvy he is, a single huge HDD is a ton simpler and Barracuda's are damn fast too(85-95MB/s write/read) and all you get is faster boot times(depending on the SSD you may not even notice a difference)

Re: Need input for system I'm building

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:19 pm
by hnzw_rui
skier wrote:depends how savvy he is, a single huge HDD is a ton simpler and Barracuda's are damn fast too(85-95MB/s write/read) and all you get is faster boot times(depending on the SSD you may not even notice a difference)
Sequential read/write sure. Latency and random read/write is still a failure and that's where SSD's shine (if you can stomach the price tag, that is). He's got a lot of RAM, though, so that should make up for part of the HDD's failing.

Re: Need input for system I'm building

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:50 pm
by Racerboyf1
Thanks so far to all the responses. I don't see the need for SSD for this guy. The setups main purpose will be racing sim. He's not a gamer just a car nut. Here is one of the setups we are looking at http://www.gamerscockpit.com.au/store/i ... /p_14.html

Re: Need input for system I'm building

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:53 pm
by geokilla
Not a fan of SSDs so I wouldn't recommend them.

Have you taken a look at the WD Black hard drives? Last I checked (few months ago), they were the fastest 7200RPM hard drives available. And even if you do stick with the Seagate Barracuda, wasn't there the 7200.12 models?

Re: Need input for system I'm building

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:57 pm
by Racerboyf1
This http://ecci6000.com/6000_wheel_01.htm and this http://ecci6000.com/6000_pedal_01.htm look pretty damn cool too, but $1500.00 for a wheel and pedals is steep.

Re: Need input for system I'm building

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:57 pm
by Racerboyf1
geokilla wrote:Not a fan of SSDs so I wouldn't recommend them.

Have you taken a look at the WD Black hard drives? Last I checked (few months ago), they were the fastest 7200RPM hard drives available. And even if you do stick with the Seagate Barracuda, wasn't there the 7200.12 models?
I had not looked. I'll check that now. Thanks!

Re: Need input for system I'm building

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:59 pm
by Racerboyf1
geokilla wrote:Not a fan of SSDs so I wouldn't recommend them.

Have you taken a look at the WD Black hard drives? Last I checked (few months ago), they were the fastest 7200RPM hard drives available. And even if you do stick with the Seagate Barracuda, wasn't there the 7200.12 models?

What's the difference from the 7200.11 and 7200.12 besides the fact that the 7200.12 is $20.00 cheaper?

Re: Need input for system I'm building

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:09 pm
by skier
Racerboyf1 wrote: What's the difference from the 7200.11 and 7200.12 besides the fact that the 7200.12 is $20.00 cheaper?
its age(product release-wise) with a touch of negligible performance, get the .12 if its cheaper than the .11

Re: Need input for system I'm building

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:08 pm
by Wavid
if you want a really fast HDD, WD has 300gb Velociraptors (10,000RPM) for about 200 bucks on newegg.

Re: Need input for system I'm building

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:53 pm
by Major_A
Why not get an i7 K series with an LGA 1156 board and skip the more expensive tri channel RAM setup? You can also get a board with USB 3.0 and SATA III in LGA 1156 cheaper than it's 1366 brother.

Re: Need input for system I'm building

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:12 pm
by skier
why get a k when your not overclocking he needs best stock performance that will run forever stable (i doubt he'd use USB3 or SATAIII in the next two years, or maybe ever)

Re: Need input for system I'm building

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:23 pm
by Major_A
Do the 1366 i7s have Turbo Boost (or whatever it's called)? And isn't Intel is killing off the 1366 socket (next year?) soon.

Re: Need input for system I'm building

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:43 pm
by hnzw_rui
Major_A wrote:Do the 1366 i7s have Turbo Boost (or whatever it's called)? And isn't Intel killing off the 1366 socket (next year?) soon.
It has it but the Turbo Boost doesn't go as high as on LGA-1156 quads. Bloomfields only Turbo to 1/1/1/2 while Lynnfields Turbo up to 1/1/4/5 and the i7-870/875k even goes 2/2/4/5. And yeah, brand new socket for Sandy Bridge so really, the only upgrade path for LGA-1366 is Gulftown.

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              i7-930  i7-860  i7-870
Stock           2.80    2.80    2.93
Turbo
  4 cores       2.93    2.93    3.06
  3 cores       2.93    2.93    3.06
  2 cores       2.93    3.33    3.46
  1 core        3.06    3.46    3.60

Re: Need input for system I'm building

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:01 pm
by Racerboyf1
OK so more good input. It does make sense to go with an 1156 board and a k series (I may OC it for him). Give me some board, cpu and memory suggestions please. I could maybe use the savings and go for a 5870 instead of the 5850?

Re: Need input for system I'm building

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:41 pm
by Major_A
I can't give any specifics but in my opinion you can't go wrong with Gigabyte boards. However, ASRock is making some pretty stout boards cheaper than the rest. And with an unlocked multi it isn't rocket science or hard to overclock the CPU a few hundred MHz and retain stability.

Re: Need input for system I'm building

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:23 pm
by geokilla
I'm against the K models. It's not like they're that much better at overclocking. I'd rather spend that $40 on a ATI 5870.

Have you considered AMD Thuban?