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Project: Water Cooling
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:28 pm
by tekgek
Hello, everyone! Today, I am have begin my endeavour to build a water cooling system for my computer. Now, I already have perfectly good cooling, so some of you may ask why, then, would I need water cooling? The answer is, because I want to add it to my list of accomplishments
Since I do not have too much to spend on the parts, the list of materials will seem a little odd:
Slightly used Swiftech H20-220 for tubing, fittings, and radiator.
New Swiftech Apogee GTZ Ci7 water block
New Swiftech MCP350 pump
All of these parts are coming tomorrow, so I will be posting pics tomorrow evening.
Just htought I would share my first water cooling system with you all.
Tekgek
Re: Project: Water Cooling
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:49 pm
by bubba
If the tubing for the H20 is used you're going to want to get new tube. You can get tube at hardware stores fairly cheap 3/8 or 1/2. Online you can get better tube and still cheap. Masterkleer 7/16id, works great for 1/2" fittings, roughly 0.69/foot. What size fittings are you using?
I'd also give all the used stuff a good cleaning. Run as hot a water you can stand to put your hand in through the RAD couple times. Fill it, drain slightly, give a good shake, rinse, repeat. Do that a couple times then do a final rinse with distilled water.
Rise all the new stuff a couple times with distilled water.
Look forward to the build
Re: Project: Water Cooling
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:51 pm
by tekgek
the hoses are not used, only the radiator, really. I will be rinsing it with distilled water. As for the hoses, I will be using 3/8 inch hoses and fittings. I will most likely end up buying uv-sensitive hoses and a blacklight to make the system look awesome.
Re: Project: Water Cooling
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:33 pm
by Sttm
Im still too scared to touch water cooling myself; so I am looking forward to seeing how this works out for you. Many pictures please and Good Luck.
Re: Project: Water Cooling
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:41 pm
by tekgek
I am currently building the cooling system. Expect pics tonight.
Tekgek
Re: Project: Water Cooling
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:57 pm
by Major_A
Thank God you decided on a real pump/block.
http://forums.legitreviews.com/about21686.html
There must be a reason why this isn't even on Swiftech's website any longer. I'll give you a hint, it's because it's a piece of garbage.
http://www.swiftnets.com/
No H20-220 and no Apogee Drive 350 self-powered waterblock. Actually found the page for this setup and it's discontinued.
http://www.swiftnets.com/products/h20-220-compact.asp
Re: Project: Water Cooling
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:52 pm
by tekgek
no wonder i was able to find the 220 so cheap, and in such good condition! The actual apogee drive 350 is a piece of crap, but I never had problems with leaks. Did you ever find out why they were occuring?
Oh, BTW, the actual installation took longer than expected. So pictures will be up tomorrow morning
Tekgek
Re: Project: Water Cooling
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:46 am
by Major_A
They were occurring because the unit wasn't sealed properly. I sealed the unit myself and and not a drop.
Re: Project: Water Cooling
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:55 pm
by tekgek
Okay, I have a big problem... The CPU is registering an 85 C temperature. The OS is shutting down before it is even booting. What is going on here? I have checked flow, and it seems fine... A problem with the CPU? Im running Core i7 920. This is kinda scary... any help is appreciated.
Tekgek
Re: Project: Water Cooling
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:07 pm
by Major_A
Do you have the inlet and outlet mixed up on the block/radiator?
Re: Project: Water Cooling
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:34 pm
by bubba
Make sure the block is seated all the way as well as oriented the right way.
The Z on the block should be running with the locking arm. The inlet is the low fitting below the G it also has a dot next to it.
You could also have air in the system. How long did you bleed the air from the loop prior to starting the system?
To run the pump with out starting the system you have to jump start the PSU. Unplug everything but the pump. If the PSU has a switch turn it off, if not unplug it from the wall. On the main 24 pin connector stick a paper clip to jumper the green wire to any black. wrap some tape around it to be safe, plug in the PSU and/or switch it on.
run the loop like this for several hours, rocking the case side to side, front to back, till the water runs clear and you dont see bubbles.
Re: Project: Water Cooling
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:17 pm
by tekgek
First of all, I would like to sincerely give really big thanks to Major_A and bubba for helping me with this. I probably would be even still farther behind than I am now if it wasn't for your help.
Second, I have cheched all inlets and outlets, bled all air out of the system for three hours, and still, when I boot up the system, temperatures begin rising from 39 C to 85 at a rate of about 1 C per second. I am out of ideas. Can anyone offer any advice?
Thank you,
Tekgek.
Re: Project: Water Cooling
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:20 pm
by Major_A
You are sure you have sufficient pressure coming out of the pump correct? It won't hurt anything but try reseating the heatsink and apply a new layer of TIM.
Re: Project: Water Cooling
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:26 pm
by tekgek
I have spent the last hour reconfiguring everything, and discovered my main problem that I am amazed I did not see: the pump was not positioned properly, so the coolant was being pumped against gravity. Now, the coolant is flowing as it should, and the CPU is running at about 45 C. Again, thank you all for helping me through my first water cooling setup.

I WILL have pics posted tonight.
Cheers!
Tekgek
Re: Project: Water Cooling
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:03 pm
by NAiLs
tekgek wrote:I have spent the last hour reconfiguring everything, and discovered my main problem that I am amazed I did not see: the pump was not positioned properly, so the coolant was being pumped against gravity. Now, the coolant is flowing as it should, and the CPU is running at about 45 C. Again, thank you all for helping me through my first water cooling setup.

I WILL have pics posted tonight.
Cheers!
Tekgek
That sounds like it is still running pretty hot. My friend just built an i7 920 system with a different HSF and his idle temps are roughly 35*C.
Re: Project: Water Cooling
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:57 am
by bubba
Not sure what fans he is using (if any) as well as room temp, that would affect temps. A pic would really be helpful.
Re: Project: Water Cooling
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:57 am
by vbironchef
Bump, Let's see some pics

Re: Project: Water Cooling
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:27 pm
by tekgek
Re: Project: Water Cooling
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:51 pm
by vbironchef
Nice!

Clean up the crows nest of wires and your golden. What are your temps?
Re: Project: Water Cooling
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:16 pm
by bubba
Your temp issue is due to the rad. The res top rad you have is NOT to be mounted flat like you have it.
Vertical, res to top only.
You're getting air trapped in the res in the top of the rad, then you get the bubble run through the system.
Need a rad box and hang the rad off the back like this, but res top up and fittings at bottom and run the hoses through an open expansion slot.

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