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19" LCD

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:32 pm
by Bio-Hazard
I know very little about LCD's in general. Here's the specs of typical mid-range LCD's that I've seen. Is something like this worth buying for around $250-$300 (without rebates), or should I look for something better.


19.0” TFT
Displayable Resolution: SXGA 1280 x 1024 max. Vertical Frequency 75Hz max.
Pixel Dimension: 0.294 x 0.294 mm
LCD Display Color: 16.2M (6 bits+FRC/color)
Viewing Angle: 140/130, CR>10
Tilt: 0°~20°
Contrast Ratio: 500 : 1 (typical)
Brightness: 250 cd /m2 (typical)
Response Time: 16 ms.
Input Signal: Analog RGB 0.7Vp-p /75 ohm ,TTL Sync; Digital RGB TMDS

This might help

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:06 am
by Strid3r-
http://pcworld.pricegrabber.com/search_ ... page_id=37

It has every size...use the filter on the left side to narrow it down to 19". What brands were you looking into?

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:58 am
by sbohdan
if you are into gaming then don't settle for anything less then 8ms refresh rate. the lower the better.

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:54 am
by Pesto
technicly it depends on the game you're playing, if you have 8ms then you wouldn't have problems till your game went beyond 125fps, and a 10ms would cap at 100fps. for some people a 12ms would be fine at 83fps.
(please correct me if any of these values are wrong) its when you exceed those framerates that you start to have a problem because your monitor is not displaying every frame that the game is showing, so it'll be a tad "jumpy".

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:08 am
by sbohdan
the problem is when they claim 8ms , you are lucky if it's really 10-12ms. when it's 16ms then in reality it's more like 30ms...

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:13 am
by FZ1
The Dells are nice and you can find good deals on them regularly. Response time can be misleading for a variety of reasons (one of which is that the measurement method is not standardized or regulated) and each person has a different visual perception. If at all possible, view the screen live to see for yourself or if the vast majority of owners claim no smearing/ghosting you are probably safe.

Samsun

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:47 am
by Strid3r-
Most samsung monitors have great refresh rates if you want to play it safe...I sorta thought that refresh rates only were really important if you used DVI and only if the DVI cable was more than 6ft long...that could easily be wrong however. Samsung, NEC, Viewsonic, and Dell are the only manufacturers that I think I would ever consider buying from and usually you can find a good deal on them via rebates. If you're in college you get a price break on Dell products, otherwise check with your employer about that as well because you might still get one. Use the link post from Apoptosis it has links to http://www.fatwallet.com and http://www.slickdeals.net. Sites like those people pull deals out for tech products all the time. Good luck deciding you probably can't go horribly wrong with all the advice on this forum.

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:59 am
by Bio-Hazard
Thanks for all the info.......... :) I'm not a huge gamer, but I do play UT 04 when I have the time.
I guess maybe I should look for something that is a bit faster then......... :lol:

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:46 am
by Pesto
Another neat thing is the Dell Ultrasharp 1905FP 19-inch is made by samsung (Model 193P). my next "at work lan party" im gonna pull one of these out and use it... lol... My friend just got the Dell Ultrasharp 2001FP 20.1-inch Widescreen monitor and says WOW looks great on it..

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:51 pm
by mr_noname111
well if u wanna go on the safest path possible, i suggest u go either Samsung or viewsonic. I've never heard negative feedback on monitors from those 2 companies, and i myself own 2 samsung monitors they are great.

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:59 pm
by killswitch83
here's one for you: Hyundai B90A

this monitor uses Samsung's TFT, just ask sbohdan, he has one I believe, this is a great buy IMO.

It's pushing it at close to 300, but I believe the juice's worth the squeeze, if you get me :)

edit: not to mention it has an 8ms response time.....I plan on getting this one myself when I start buying components again.

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 6:48 am
by Pesto
that looks like a great monitor, the only thing is its only got a VGA connector. I was doing some google'n and didn't find too much (technical) info as to why DVI over VGA. I know ones analog and the others digital, but the best explanation I could find is comparing VCR to DVD. some people can tell the difference and some can't. anyone have a better breakdown on this?

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:24 am
by Bio-Hazard
My wife was really extra kind to me and went out to Wal-Mart and picked me one of their no-name 19" LCDs up instead of letting me order on for myself. To be 100% honest, the pic quality is great, it's got both DVI and VGA connectors. DVD play back is flawless and while playing UT 04, there might be a slight bit of ghosting when the screen is full of bots, other than that, it games just fine. I guess I'm going to run it for a while to see how it goes, but unless there is something very bad about the thing, I'm going to keep it so I don't upset the wife about taking her gift back.
One other good thing, there are zero dead or stuck pixels, whick is a good thing.

Image

Yep

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:11 am
by Strid3r-
They seem to work alright...name brands typically last longer only because they are better quality. I'm using a 4 year old MAG LCD right now b/c my beast of a CRT doesn't fit in my dorm room. It suffices but there is a difference in color and brightness. Just keep the other monitor, but by the time it dies LCDs might be dirt cheap if not replaced...who knows?