CES 2006: OCZ's Cryo-Z Phase Change Cooler

Bio-Hazard · Post by **Bio-Hazard** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:18 am

Boy that sure sucks, you would have thought that they would have worked that out before they went into production, or maybe the rules changed regarding shippment after they ramped up production.................

Post by **Apoptosis** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:21 am

Yeah I was talking with ryan (the CEO of OCZ) yesterday and said he can send me units, but I'd have to find the gas and fill them myself.

Bio-Hazard · Post by **Bio-Hazard** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:24 am

That should be easy enough to do, most AC service company should beable to take care of that problem...............

What type of gas is used in the units??????? I know a few people that service AC units for the home and auto.

pcrobot · Post by **pcrobot** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:29 am

Apoptosis wrote:Yeah I was talking with ryan (the CEO of OCZ) yesterday and said he can send me units, but I'd have to find the gas and fill them myself.

If I could test one out I could find the gas!

infinitevalence · Post by **infinitevalence** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:34 pm

my guess is its just propane, as thats the most cost efective gas to use.

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:35 pm

propane is explosive and needs alot of pressure to get low temps!

They use a commercially available gas....I can't remember what.......This is an old thread.......There is some pics out on the web showing the compressor and the sticker on it....it shows what refrigerant used....

OCZ should empty these of the gas and either fill them in the US or get their distributors to do it......It will cost them alot, but how much is it costing them sitting in a chinese warehouse deprieciating?

Post by **DMB2000uk** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:53 pm

I'd heard some rumor going round that OCZ was waiting till the price of parts could be brought down to sell them at the right price, obviously it was nothing more than that, a rumor.

It does suck that they cant ship them out, especially because of the price they are/were to be sold at.

Dan

cancer-rat · Post by **cancer-rat** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:03 am

It probably uses Tetrafluoroethane aka HFC-134a. I wonder if the chinese put some ozone depleting refrigerant in the unit. AFAIK the US wont let you import non-ozone friendly refridgerant anymore.

Be warned though, the MSDS says that HFC-134a may cause testicular cancer if chronically inhaled over a period of years.

Post by **Apoptosis** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 5:40 am

cancer-rat wrote:It probably uses Tetrafluoroethane aka HFC-134a. I wonder if the chinese put some ozone depleting refrigerant in the unit. AFAIK the US wont let you import non-ozone friendly refridgerant anymore.

Be warned though, the MSDS says that HFC-134a may cause testicular cancer if chronically inhaled over a period of years.

Great first post and welcome to the forums... I don't miss MSDS's at all!

KnightRid · Post by **KnightRid** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:43 am

Maybe i am an idiot - well ok, there is no maybe involved :p

Why couldnt you just use this

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDeta ... number=AF2

to fill it?

I dont know how those things need filled, pressurized or not, or how much they would hold, but this seems like a pretty cheap solution.

Mike

of course if they use some exotic gas that noone could find or handle safely, then that just sux.

They can send me one while they are at it..

or enough for all my computers..HAHAHAAHHAHA

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:58 am

AFAIK Tetrafluoroethane aka HFC-134a is illegal now........it used to be used on old fridges.......it KILLS the ozone layer

We used to "play" with it as it's heavier than air and you can literally hold it in your hands!

bubba · Post by **bubba** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:14 am

nah your thinking of CFC-12 or R12, think R22 for your frig. R12 was the old refrigerant used in cars, all cars after 94 use 134a as the refrigerant. you can buy it at autozone, the R12 onther hand is the nasty stuff that you have to sell your first born to get your AC fixed, last I checked its like $50 a pound ver. $7 a pound for 134a.

cancer-rat · Post by **cancer-rat** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:53 pm

Apoptosis wrote:Great first post and welcome to the forums... I don't miss MSDS's at all!

I love scaring people at work with the dual big yellow books

~~~

I am wondering how you would deal with condensation issues with tempuratures that low. Even if you were able to seal the CPU to the heat exchanger, you'd think you would have issues with condensation around the socket and on the back end of the motherboard.

infinitevalence · Post by **infinitevalence** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:39 am

dielectric grease

cancer-rat · Post by **cancer-rat** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 3:46 am

I would assume you would spread it on the pins before installation of the processor.

What about condensation on the motherboard, especially the reverse side of the socket. At -20C your going to be sucking heat from motherboard, at least enough to bring in below the dew point.

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:30 am

Apoptosis wrote:Yeah I was talking with ryan (the CEO of OCZ) yesterday and said he can send me units, but I'd have to find the gas and fill them myself.

Couldn't OCZ just tell you what gas to use?
Surely if you use the wrong gas, the performance goes down and OCZ won't want that.......

Bio-Hazard wrote:That should be easy enough to do, most AC service company should beable to take care of that problem............... What type of gas is used in the units??????? I know a few people that service AC units for the home and auto.

Sounds like a plan......

Or get them sent to me, there was (and thinks still is) as place down the road from me that could fill them.....

cancer-rat wrote:I would assume you would spread it on the pins before installation of the processor.

What about condensation on the motherboard, especially the reverse side of the socket. At -20C your going to be sucking heat from motherboard, at least enough to bring in below the dew point.

The grease goes into the sockett....without it, some water can condense and either kill the board/cpu or else will corrode the pins.
They come with a pad that is placed behind the cpu that heats up the back of the motherboard.......when using phase, most of the condensation is on the cooling head.....and even then it's every little since it's so well insulated.......done right, there is no condensation.....

FeRaL · Post by **FeRaL** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:19 pm

Sorry to resurrect such an old thread, but, WHERE THE HELL IS MY CRYO-Z!!!!!

Seriously though, any news on the whole issue with them shipping the device with its gas?

Zertz · Post by **Zertz** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:45 pm

I think I read somewhere a while ago (Yeah I know...) that the whole thing was cancelled.

Post by **Apoptosis** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:58 am

yeah it's done...

Bio-Hazard · Post by **Bio-Hazard** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:21 am

Saw this a while back about the coolers.................

OCZ Cryo-Z to be Available Next Week
The highly anticipated OCZ Cryo-Z phase change cooler is expecting its first shipment next week starting February 4th. OCZ plans to make an announcement on the XtremeSystems forum on when the units will become available for purchase. The company says that each Cryo-Z unit is handtested and will be sold directly to enthusiasts. Unfortunately all units are 110V and will be exclusive to the US and possibly also Canada in the future. For more information, please wait for the announcement that will be made on the XtremeSystems forum.

http://www.techpowerup.com/?51442

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7292.html

And another thread where a guy just got one and is going to be doing a review...............

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/sho ... OCZ+Cryo-Z

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