sbohdan wrote:Apoptosis wrote:A $199 Radeon RX 480 would pay for itself in under 2 months...
Yeah, right. It would pay for itself the $199 card cost or the cost of these cards and all others going through the roof (On Amazon the cheapest I found is $440 and the most expensive retarded price is $720 now) because of this fu@ing mining nightmare?! I realy hope and can't wait for this mining craze to crumble and be able to buy a high end card for the fraction of the original price, when all will try to get rid off the than useless cards. Untill than I'm boycotting any site or channel that promotes this bull****.
On a second note: the worldwide mass mining is also a huge waste of electricity, contributing to even more pollution. As for the idea that mining would "undermine" the present disquisting world order - that's naive to think that. If mining would be or becomes a threat to the illuminati, they will just outlaw it and shut it down. Simple is that. Those that did Pearl-Harbor, 9/11 and started wars for smaller goals than saving their world power, will not hesitate to kill and erase anything or anyone that threatens them.
I think there is a big misconception here on what is really happening...
Did you know that NVIDIA for example sells direct custom build to order cards for big mining farms? They are sold through AIB's and it is so hush hush that I have been told by the analysts that the income is reported by NVIDIA in the 'other' category.
That means NVIDIA on one hand is telling the public that they are for the gamers and against price gouging and then behind closed doors are taking huge orders of tens of thousands of cards for the mining farms. There is only so much fab time and wafers, so that GPU supply is what is really hurting the average joe gamer.
An example of those custom cards would be a GeForce card with the GP104 GPU and 4G of GDDR5X memory. This card is unlike anything available to gamers and was custom designed for mining farms and is sold by EVGA, ASUS, Gigabyte and all the big gaming card brands you know and love. They come with a 90-day warranty and are tough to get. They actually have restrictions on talking about them, importing them into certain countries and more. Why haven't you heard about them? Because reviewers can't get them. I've been trying for several months without luck. I can find some on the black market, but don't want to risk ordering in a paper weight from China or Iceland and being out money from some dark web site.
Do a google search on something like the ASUS MINING-P104-4G
https://bitcoinschannel.com/first-impre ... 04-4g-gpu/
https://www.fanplace.ro/placi-video/asu ... 5x-256bit/
I'm trying to inform the gaming community there is money to be made as they already have the GPU to mine on. Why miss out on something that can make you hundreds or thousands of dollars over the course of time? The gaming community shouldn't let these big mining whales get all the cards, but at the end of the day the GPU is highly programmable and nothing says they are for gamers only. That is why I am shocked there are a number of custom mining cards flying under the radar and no one calls AMD/NVIDIA out on it.
And as for mining profit... A Radeon RX 480 could be had for $200 back in early 2017 before the Summer mining rush. That card at 27 MH/s over the course of 12 months was capable of mining 6 Ether. If you held that until this very second it would be worth $5,200 before electric or if you sold at the Jan 2018 highs it would have put $8,700 in the bank before electric expenses. That is a good size chunk of money and why I started writing these articles nearly 10 months ago. That card today would mine less than 0.75 Ether a year or about $650 a year in profit at current rates. Who knows what Ether will be worth in a year from now or even beyond that. Not many mining in early 2017 would have guessed Ether would have been worth $1450 in 2018. Do you mine for what it is priced at now or what you think it may be worth in the future?
Some predicition sites are showing $3,000 in the next 5 years and others are showing more than that. None are really showing a drop.
So, that $199 video card that mine all of 2017 could have mined 6 x $3,000 = $18,000 if these prediction sites are worth anything. (300 Watts x $0.10 kWh for 24/7 use would be $260 in electric costs).
As for electric... Damn right mining is wasting a ton of power, but I was watching CNBC the other day and they were saying if cryptocurrency mining stopped that the sector would have major issues. My local power company stock is doing pretty damn good in recent years. Showing that you can make money off the companies that are making money off these crypto boom. Chip makers, power companies and component makers are all booming now.
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Iceland is on track to use more electric mining than power every single home in the country -
http://www.businessinsider.com/iceland- ... ing-2018-2
The good news is that Ethereum for example will switch to PoS instead of PoW down the road and that will use less electric. The issue there is when that change happens it will slowly switch over many months if not over a year. As for the other 900 coins that you can mine... who knows.
My point in all this is that this may be a bubble, but there is money to be made on it. You can boycott sites, but at the end of the day I'm just trying to help people make money and better their lives. That is the whole point of LR and why I started it 15 years ago. Cut through the BS, get the truth and save money. Now there is a chance for people to make real money and to me that is really exciting.