Intel Moves Closer to 45nm Penryn Processor Production

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Intel Moves Closer to 45nm Penryn Processor Production

Post by Apoptosis » Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:06 pm

Intel has recently demonstrated high-k + metal gate transistor breakthroughs on 45nm microprocessors and while Legit Reviews didn't get to see it in person we have been in contact with Intel following the developments that took place this week in California. If you're interested in Intel's 45nm Penryn family of processors and what the future holds for Intel this is a must read!

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Article Title: Intel Moves Closer to 45nm Penryn Processor Production
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Post by Bwall » Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:50 am

Wow! Congrats to Intel and the Penryn team.
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Post by zparker » Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:47 pm

cant wait to upgrade over to these in a C2D
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Post by Gamble » Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:20 pm

Is the Penryn going to be able to run in C2D motherboards? Or will there be another forced upgrade?
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Post by zparker » Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:50 am

haahaahaa you think they would let us off that easy???
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Post by T-Shirt » Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:11 pm

there is no reason they couldn't make a C2D compatible version.........but like alot of upgrades you might be better off with a new" Made for Penryn" MB

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Post by Apoptosis » Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:13 pm

I'm sure it will work on a few boards, but no motherboard company has officially said there board supports Penryn... If I was PR for a mobo company and my board supported Penryn I would have sent out that PR days ago...

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Post by dicecca112 » Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:23 pm

most likely the current boards will support it with a VRM upgrade. I believe the Bearlake Chipset will support it. I think these constant board upgrades are gonna end soon. The Manufacturers are getting mad at intel, and who can blame them.
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Post by rockcola » Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:31 pm

WoW that is amazing. Those things must run hecka cool. Wonder how high they can get the clock speed?

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Post by Kougar » Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:00 pm

Here's what Intel said on the matter of compatibility. Basically all of the hardware listed in the LegitReviews article was unmodified hardware, and at least in some cases unmodified BIOS's as well. Source
"Motherboard developers will have to make some minor changes to support [Penryn]. We can't guarantee that a person could just plug the chip into every motherboard on the market today." However, Smith also claimed the Penryn boot test that grabbed so many headlines last week occurred on unmodified hardware that included a notebook, several desktop motherboards and several server motherboards.
Could it just be possible they are referring to the 1,333FSB requirements, which not quite all boards are capable of running (*cough* nForce5 :roll: ). They already changed the VRM system once, I'd think they could have designed the change in mind for future processors unless they deliberately wanted to force another change.
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Post by holden_m » Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:53 pm

I wonder if it can deliver the same *** whupping that C2D gives the P4s

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Post by Kougar » Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:06 pm

Penryn is the same design as the Core 2 Duos, just shunken down. So very likely unless they greatly increase clockspeeds, then no it won't. ;)
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Post by Jejking » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:09 pm

holden_m wrote:I wonder if it can deliver the same *** whupping that C2D gives the P4s
Nah, that gap is way too large for just a die-shrink.
Kougar wrote:Penryn is the same design as the Core 2 Duos, just shunken down. So very likely unless they greatly increase clockspeeds, then no it won't. ;)
Nah too, the move 65-45 is just a bit tinier then 90-65 so I think we will see 3.5 GHz+ :D
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Post by Gamble » Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:51 pm

Well I hope it is compatible with a BIOS upgrade, that would be nice.

What I gleaned from the high-k + metal design is that it would be able to overclock better, the free electrons aren't shaking the silicon out of place....is that right? If so that would mean higher clock speeds stock, and higher overclocks would be possible, too.
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Post by Antonik » Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:07 pm

I only just bought a C2D :(

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Post by Kougar » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:11 am

Jejking wrote:
holden_m wrote:I wonder if it can deliver the same *** whupping that C2D gives the P4s
Nah, that gap is way too large for just a die-shrink.
Kougar wrote:Penryn is the same design as the Core 2 Duos, just shunken down. So very likely unless they greatly increase clockspeeds, then no it won't. ;)
Nah too, the move 65-45 is just a bit tinier then 90-65 so I think we will see 3.5 GHz+ :D
We might, especially if AMD's Agena & Kuma processors outpace Intel's Conroe. Don't forget that Intel was selling 3.6ghz & 3.8ghz Pentium 4's though, built on a toasty 90nm process. ;)
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Post by kenc51 » Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:48 am

Kougar wrote:
Jejking wrote:
holden_m wrote:I wonder if it can deliver the same *** whupping that C2D gives the P4s
Nah, that gap is way too large for just a die-shrink.
Kougar wrote:Penryn is the same design as the Core 2 Duos, just shunken down. So very likely unless they greatly increase clockspeeds, then no it won't. ;)
Nah too, the move 65-45 is just a bit tinier then 90-65 so I think we will see 3.5 GHz+ :D
We might, especially if AMD's Agena & Kuma processors outpace Intel's Conroe. Don't forget that Intel was selling 3.6ghz & 3.8ghz Pentium 4's though, built on a toasty 90nm process. ;)
Those ~3.8GHz chips had a very long pipeline to allow for high MHz, AMD always use a short pipeline in their chips, that's why they can only scale to 3GHz!

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