Mississippi Law: “No Fat People Allowed”

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Re: Mississippi Law: “No Fat People Allowed”

Post by bubba » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:48 am

Acording to that BMI calculator I need to drop 110lbs to be "normal weight".

* Underweight = <18.5
* Normal weight = 18.5-24.9
* Overweight = 25-29.9
* Obesity = BMI of 30 or greater
Me as of this morning: 6'1" 295 = BMI 38.9
Me to be just in normal weight range: 6'1" 185 = BMI 24.4

according to that I need to lose the equivalent of a teen age girl from my body, look at the pic above of me, do I look that fat? I sure as hell don't think so.
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Re: Mississippi Law: “No Fat People Allowed”

Post by vicaphit » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:14 pm

I am at around 22 BMI, and that is about 2/3rds of the way up the normal BMI scale. People still call me skinny. I don't think the BMI scale is universal.
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Re: Mississippi Law: “No Fat People Allowed”

Post by Zelig » Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:06 pm

bubba wrote:according to that I need to lose the equivalent of a teen age girl from my body, look at the pic above of me, do I look that fat? I sure as hell don't think so.
The links I posted earlier go into detail about how overweight people have a view of body weight that is distorted (similarly, I'd expect underweight people to have the same problem). Particularly in America, because the majority of people are overweight, society's opinion of what looks fat changes.

BMI is a "medical" measurement. The "normal" range is a healthy range, outside of which, increased deviance results in greater health problems, it isn't an average, or a measurement of how people look.
vicaphit wrote:I am at around 22 BMI, and that is about 2/3rds of the way up the normal BMI scale. People still call me skinny. I don't think the BMI scale is universal.
That's to be expected, when the average BMI falls above of the "normal" range. BMI is meant to be applied to sedentary individuals, it's not meant to be accurate otherwise. For people who exercise, body fat % is a better measure.

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Re: Mississippi Law: “No Fat People Allowed”

Post by The Black Pumpkin » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:18 pm

I'm about 25 over, so I could lose a little.
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Re: Mississippi Law: “No Fat People Allowed”

Post by inko1nsiderate » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:45 pm

You don't make obesity go away by not letting people eat in restraunts.

If you are going to limit people's freedom because obesity is bad for society or whatever how about we make foods that are unhealthy expensive and make smaller food proportions cheaper so that we pressure people to eat healthy and eat less.


I mean, what is stopping them from eating themselves into obesity sitting in the comfort of their homes ordering pizza? That is what I am doing and it works just fine.

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Re: Mississippi Law: “No Fat People Allowed”

Post by ibleet » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:18 pm

According to BMI, I am normal weight, although I consider myself thin.

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Re: Mississippi Law: “No Fat People Allowed”

Post by DaIceMan » Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:30 am

bubba wrote:Acording to that BMI calculator I need to drop 110lbs to be "normal weight".

* Underweight = <18.5
* Normal weight = 18.5-24.9
* Overweight = 25-29.9
* Obesity = BMI of 30 or greater
Me as of this morning: 6'1" 295 = BMI 38.9
Me to be just in normal weight range: 6'1" 185 = BMI 24.4

according to that I need to lose the equivalent of a teen age girl from my body, look at the pic above of me, do I look that fat? I sure as hell don't think so.
I'm the same build as Bubba... though 6' 4" and admittedly overweight at @320. my BMI was almost 40. To be normal (BMI 25), I have to loose 115lbs. I just don't see how this is even possible. If I could actually stick to a more sensible diet, and lose about 60-70, I'd be extremely happy. Even when I was down around 280 a few years ago, I remember having more energy and being less tired. Back surgery 2 years ago really put a dent in that motivation and allowed me to creep up to my heaviest weight ever.
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Re: Mississippi Law: “No Fat People Allowed”

Post by Amy » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:23 am

Hrm...apparently I'm a little overweight, but it doesn't take into account that I just had a baby... O:)

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Re: Mississippi Law: “No Fat People Allowed”

Post by Sporg » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:36 am

I'm sorry, but BMI is complete garbage. If you really want a good test, the go find someone with calipers. An even better option is if you have a university nearby they often have periods where they can throw you in the tank for a fee to get a super accurate measurement.

A few years ago I was training a lot and trying to get on with the border patrol. I am just over 5'9" and at that time weighed 225. According to the BMI I was almost obese (29). I was by no means a monster in size, just very healthy. I had to do a series of tests and smoked them all to get past that point.

Right now I'm just getting back into the gym, since I've put on a ton of weight the past few years. I think I went off track a bit somewhere. I know I had a point... hmmm... maybe this will help... :drinkers:
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Re: Mississippi Law: “No Fat People Allowed”

Post by Zelig » Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:49 am

Sporg wrote:I'm sorry, but BMI is complete garbage. If you really want a good test, the go find someone with calipers. An even better option is if you have a university nearby they often have periods where they can throw you in the tank for a fee to get a super accurate measurement.

A few years ago I was training a lot and trying to get on with the border patrol. I am just over 5'9" and at that time weighed 225. According to the BMI I was almost obese (29). I was by no means a monster in size, just very healthy. I had to do a series of tests and smoked them all to get past that point.
BMI is by no means garbage, it's only meant for sedentary individuals, and is not meant to measure anything for people who actually exercise.

A body fat % test is obviously a better measurement, and if you go to a gym (obviously not the only way to exercise), they'll probably have people there who are happy to take caliper measurements.

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