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ix-Nay the ideo-vay ard-cay

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:56 pm
by unfaithfulsfan
Sometimes I really worry about my sanity.

My wife and I got in a long conversation over the weekend about upgrading her mom's ancient eMachine. I told her you really can't upgrade an eMachine. I still have my old tower, I have a perfectly good processor and RAM all I really need is a motherboard, OS and a PSU to redo her computer and it would be just fine for them to use.

My ulterior motive is of course to get a new mobo; CPU (intel, this time) and Vista for me! (selfish schmuck that I am) :mrgreen:

So I was searching around ebay and stumbled on to a copy of Vista Ultimate Retail, new and unregistered in the unopened plastic box for $99 with 17 minutes to go. So I said, WTF and put in a bid. Couple of minutes later I was outbid by $25 so I bumped it up to $141.01. I wound up getting it for 138.52 which is about $40 cheaper than Newegg for the OEM and $140 for the retail version.

I'm happy yet very dismayed.......

Jack

Jack

So I still have no video card but I do have my next OS.

Re: ix-Nay the ideo-vay ard-cay

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:34 pm
by martini161
any particular reason you want vista? :P

Re: ix-Nay the ideo-vay ard-cay

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:38 pm
by Sporg
I hear that Veeestah discs are great for playing Frisbee :mrgreen:

Re: ix-Nay the ideo-vay ard-cay

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:40 pm
by martini161
Sporg wrote:I hear that Veeestah discs are great for playing Frisbee :mrgreen:
they are! there nice and shiny and stuff so thats the only way i can play without getting distraced :P

Re: ix-Nay the ideo-vay ard-cay

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:51 pm
by vicaphit
You guys are just Naysayers. Vista runs perfectly fine with SP1.

Re: ix-Nay the ideo-vay ard-cay

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:43 pm
by stopthekilling77
Never had a problem with Vista aside from the fact that my old GPU wasn't DX10 capable, then the rig died with the CPU and I haven't gotten around to dual booting again as harddrive space is limited.

Re: ix-Nay the ideo-vay ard-cay

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:46 pm
by unfaithfulsfan
Well, if that wasn't all very scathing :shock: ( :lol: ) I guess y'all are giving me the same look (in written form) as my wife did.....But thanks Vicaphit and StopTheKilling for backing me up!!! :supz: I'm batting .200 at least!

I've been thinking about a dual boot with Vista for awhile, especially with the 64 bit version. Like all versions of Vista, I've heard "mixed" reviews---heavy on the negative side but I figure I might as well get used to it. Actually, the systems that have come into the shop with enough power to run the OS haven't been half bad.

I'm fairly certain I've got 64 bit drivers for all my devices. I know there's a big drawback for gamers, too, especially for the older stuff but that's really not my thing so much as I just want to really delve into it which I haven't been able to do yet for the sake of fast turn around in the shop.

But, as my disclaimer originally stated, "Sometimes I really worry about my sanity"

After all, I could always slap it back up on ebay and try to get my money back.......and I think there's an extra XP product key laying around the shop on a dead machine, too. *I think*

Take care,
Jack

Re: ix-Nay the ideo-vay ard-cay

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:59 pm
by Sporg
Sorry, was just poking fun. I didn't like XP either until SP2. Vista just seems like a "tweener" OS to me. It's probably not a bad idea for you to get more familiar with it though, considering your line of business. :)

Re: ix-Nay the ideo-vay ard-cay

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:46 pm
by stopthekilling77
Dual booting is just plain fun for me :D
I was working on a triple boot with Ubuntu 8.04 or 7.10 back with the 7800GT but with all Alathald's linux help, that video card kept Ubuntu from running.
If you find a good deal on Vista Ultimate 64-Bit, get it! It's a worthwhile OS to get to know as the number of friends who need computer help and come to me happen to use Vista. It could only get better with time and service packs. We'll see how things go with SP2 for Vista, but until I can afford a larger harddrive, I'm stuck with what I have.

If/when you do get Vista, be sure to post up here with your opinions!

Re: ix-Nay the ideo-vay ard-cay

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:51 am
by aircommando13
I don't think it's worth more than $100 though really. Besides, I got mine for $15 through my sister's college, same with microsoft office.

Re: ix-Nay the ideo-vay ard-cay

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:34 am
by unfaithfulsfan
aircommando13 wrote:I don't think it's worth more than $100 though really. Besides, I got mine for $15 through my sister's college, same with microsoft office.
I didn't think I did too badly since the retail version I got is nearly $300 on the egg. Granted the OEM is only $179 but I got the nice shiny plastic box that I can use for many many many many wonderful things. :) If I was still a stoner.....

It's probably going to be a couple of months because I have to still get my new mobo and C2D CPU. I think for the sake of $$ I'm gonna stick with the E7200 or E7300 Wolfdale. From what I've seen on LR, the OC possibilities with those is pretty sound, right? As much as I'd love to get a Q6600, I'll just have to see what the finances are like. I think Vista would run a hell of a lot better on the quad which may be reason enough.... :mrgreen: Also, I just HAVE to get a Raptor for the OS. I'm too spoiled by my work PC to go with anything less. Damn, for someone who's broke most of the time, I sure am picky... :mrgreen:

Bear with me, y'all, I'll get it together eventually..... :drinkers:

Jack

Re: ix-Nay the ideo-vay ard-cay

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:34 pm
by Tim Burton
I'da sold you Vista Ultimate for $125, shipped too! :finga:

Re: ix-Nay the ideo-vay ard-cay

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:11 pm
by Topher
Ive worked in the computer industry for 15 years now and my transition from XP to Ubuntu Linux was much smoother and pleasant than my transition from XP to Vista. Not because of performance problems or lack of drivers but mainly because of the direction they are taking towards features and layout. They have successfully dumbed down the OS so much that I now find it painful to use. I'm a stickler for using the file system the way it was meant to be used. I do not like how Microsoft is continually trying to "hide" where you are putting your stuff with the idea that searching for your files is more important than knowing where they are.

I'm not trying to be a nay-Sayer or devils advocate, I've tried to enjoy the Vista experience, I really have. On two occasions now I've installed it and ran it for about two to three weeks until I just couldn't stand it anymore and went back to XP. I would like to say however, as each day goes by, I'm enjoying Ubuntu more and more. If it weren't for my PC gaming addiction, I do believe I could make the 100% jump to Ubuntu.

My T-61 Thinkpad is setup for dual boot between Ubuntu and XP, and honestly, I run it in Ubuntu more than I do XP. Never thought I'd ever hear myself say that about Linux.

Re: ix-Nay the ideo-vay ard-cay

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:07 pm
by martini161
Topher wrote:Ive worked in the computer industry for 15 years now and my transition from XP to Ubuntu Linux was much smoother and pleasant than my transition from XP to Vista. Not because of performance problems or lack of drivers but mainly because of the direction they are taking towards features and layout. They have successfully dumbed down the OS so much that I now find it painful to use. I'm a stickler for using the file system the way it was meant to be used. I do not like how Microsoft is continually trying to "hide" where you are putting your stuff with the idea that searching for your files is more important than knowing where they are.

I'm not trying to be a nay-Sayer or devils advocate, I've tried to enjoy the Vista experience, I really have. On two occasions now I've installed it and ran it for about two to three weeks until I just couldn't stand it anymore and went back to XP. I would like to say however, as each day goes by, I'm enjoying Ubuntu more and more. If it weren't for my PC gaming addiction, I do believe I could make the 100% jump to Ubuntu.

My T-61 Thinkpad is setup for dual boot between Ubuntu and XP, and honestly, I run it in Ubuntu more than I do XP. Never thought I'd ever hear myself say that about Linux.
I totally agree about the file thing. they seem to think that every ones a stupid mainstreamer who probably thinks linux is an anti virus or something. were not all technically retarded microsoft, us knowing where are files are located doesnt mean were going to screw up our system! but im sticking with vista for my HTPC but mainly just because my not so technically inclined family is a sucker for the pretty coolers :finga:

Re: ix-Nay the ideo-vay ard-cay

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:12 am
by unfaithfulsfan
In this line of work, PC repair and related crap, I'm seeing Vista more and more, so I feel at least some need to get more comfortable with it. At this point I can find my way through it enough to do what I need to do but I'd rather not feel so apprehensive going to it as I do at this point. The file organization is a major PITA, I agree and trying to find the right files to back up before a repair install seems to take longer than the repair install itself. But I attributed it to my lack of familiarity with the OS.

God, I want a cigarette so friggin' bad right now. I'm on my second day this time around. Wish me luck
Tim Burton wrote:I'da sold you Vista Ultimate for $125, shipped too! :finga:
I guess next time the urge to buy strikes me, I'll just pm you to see if you've got it!! :lol: Don't suppose you've got a new in the box Q6600 for under $100 do you? Or an unregistered XP Pro for less than $50? :mrgreen: (Just wishful thinkin'!)

Jack