Scientists worry about Pentagon’s new ray gun

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Scientists worry about Pentagon’s new ray gun

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Scientists are questioning the safety of a "Star Wars"-style ray gun due to be deployed in Iraq for riot control next year.

The Active Denial System weapon, classified as “less lethal” by the Pentagon, fires a 95-gigahertz microwave beam at rioters to cause heating and intolerable pain in less than five seconds.

The idea is that people caught in the beam will rapidly try to move out of it and therefore break up the crowd.
Source: MSNBC News

Holy crap! :shock: 95-Gigahertz microwave beam! As the article noted if you have metal on you... coins, buttons on jeans, or any other metal or lens like contacts or glasses this thing will burn you up... I'm not too sure I'm okay using this on any humans for means of crowd control. If people shoot at you then by all means shoot back, but this microwave idea is a bad idea IMHO.
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yep, nothing like good ol' microwave rays to give one problems...jeez, this thing can fry brains, as with the old principle of standing in front of a microwave for too long, or even cause cancer..."less lethal" indeed eh? :axe:
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fires a 95-gigahertz microwave beam at rioters to cause heating and intolerable pain in less than five seconds
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don't rioters usually be in crowds who push forward? isn't that the idea??
5 seconds?


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Yeah, but personally, the ray gun takes all the fun out of it. Why not use tazers and beanbag guns, now THAT'S entertainment, rofl :axe:
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Well, it (the raygun) will allow the Pentagon to say that they've made "more advanced" crowd control. (regardless of how deadly/not deadly the device is, it's new so they can say things like that)
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excuse for military expense budget?
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I think so, unfortunately our government suffers from what is commonly referred to "pork-barrel spending"; that is, our tax money sometimes gets spent on things that it shouldn't be, especially when we have much more pressing issues that we could be spending money on, such as paying down the deficit, improving healthcare and the economy, etc.
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this is extremely sad... wtf kind of genocide device is this? and we use it in the name of america? injustice...

what the hell's wrong with using tear gas? what's wrong with pressure hoses?

this pisses me off....
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Forget tear gas! I still like the pepperball paintball rounds... nothing like a paintball full of pepper spray coming at you from a DYE DMC MARKER paintball gun doing close to 100mph. Imagine a DMC Marker firing 23bps (balls per second) and hurting like hell when you get hit and then you have pepper spray in your face... That will make the crowd move and not cause cancer or burn people's eyes out with glasses or contacts.

Forget the military still paintball guns shown on the Pepperball site and give me a DYE gun anyday. The TAC 700 shoots 700 balls per minute versus the professional DMC Marker's 1600 per minute! Not to mention that I got to meet all the guys that design the DYE paintball guns when I was in China last year and they are cool as heck.
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exactly
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who knows what this govt.'s problem is? Besides the fact that some politicians, if not a good deal of them, have some serious corruption problems when it comes to our money. Like I said before, give me a stun gun with plenty of battery packs, maybe a high-speed beanbag gun, hell, even a baseball bat, and I can wipe out a crowd, I mean jeez, the prospect of getting cancer at the hands of the govt and local law enforcement officers is a rather disturbing one.
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Guess you guys never stood a RIOT line before with all those crap heads throwing everything including the kitchen sink at you. And these days, most of the RIOTers are just as well equiped as the military in terms of protective gear and in a lot of cases in terms of weapons also.
You all need to stand a RIOT line one time with what you say will work and see just how well they don't work.
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The directed-energy weapon uses a 95GHz electromagnetic beam that penetrates approximately 1/64 of an inch into the skin. Here is a close-up of the Raytheon electronics system.

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1/64 of an inch = roughly smaller than half a millimeter.... that's messed up. think about half a millimeter into your skin... that's roughly a papercut-deep wound over your entire body....
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Well who said it had to be pleasent? The US military just keeps spending and spending, with no end in site. I support the troops, not this poop (read: **** spending, that was for rhyme!)
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Is that Elton John working on that ray gun in the picture you posted Apop?
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haha i thought the same thing when i saw that
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heheh, it does kinda look like him, or at least how he looked before he took too many up the poop chute, rofl. anyways, 1/64 of an inch is pretty rough, considering the extreme burning sensation. And it's still enough to cause cancers like basal cell carcinoma, wicked stuff man, and melanoma if the waves are on your skin long enough.
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killswitch83 wrote:heheh, it does kinda look like him, or at least how he looked before he took too many up the poop chute, rofl. anyways, 1/64 of an inch is pretty rough, considering the extreme burning sensation. And it's still enough to cause cancers like basal cell carcinoma, wicked stuff man, and melanoma if the waves are on your skin long enough.
whoa! do we have another medical-based/science-based professional/student?
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nahh, I just had about 3 years of Bio and Human Anatomy, that's all. Everyone said I should have been a doc instead of wanting to be an IT consultant or tech; maybe one day, when I'm older and wiser, lol. Call it a hobby, if you will, with a Hannibal Lecter twist (just kidding :axe: )
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