Say Good-bye to Tax Free interent Buying

bigblockmatt · Post by **bigblockmatt** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:53 pm

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-6004 ... d.newsfeed

dang politicians!!!

pointreyes · Post by **pointreyes** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:59 pm

Makes me hope that there is never a sales tax in my state. Every once and a while someone mentions the need for one but like most of us homeowners we are callous in believing it will relieve our taxes on our homes.

Oregon, the place where there is still no sales tax and you are not allowed to pump your own gas but you can smoke pot for medical reasons and if that does not help you have the right to die upon your request. Must be something about all that rain that affects us.

Post by **FZ1** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:17 pm

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

infinitevalence · Post by **infinitevalence** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:33 pm

Dont freak out just yet, they are only talking about it, until its law, its not law

Post by **FZ1** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:44 pm

They'll pass it if they feel like they are being gyped out of $. I better start my list

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:01 pm

man, can we chop the politicians' balls off? I think that would be a good exchange for cash out of our pockets for online shopping....I'm really beginning to despise the govt.......oy.....

Dragon_Cooler · Post by **Dragon_Cooler** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:18 pm

infinitevalence wrote:Dont freak out just yet, they are only talking about it, until its law, its not law

look at the solicitation with cellphones!! LOL it will happen, if its money for them, they will get it!

Kerii · Post by **Kerii** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:26 pm

Governments can't run without money. Those people need to have a salary and money to fixup/build the roads, and tax from non-food retail items accounts for a large portion of their cash stream. If they can't get it from there, they'll just raise taxes on other things to sustain themselves, which likely will result in a situation much like Oregon.

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:32 pm

well, I would mention how the govt is bad about "Pork" projects and pork spending, but I won't go there tonight

Post by **Illuminati** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:52 am

pointreyes wrote:Makes me hope that there is never a sales tax in my state. Every once and a while someone mentions the need for one but like most of us homeowners we are callous in believing it will relieve our taxes on our homes.

Oregon, the place where there is still no sales tax and you are not allowed to pump your own gas but you can smoke pot for medical reasons and if that does not help you have the right to die upon your request. Must be something about all that rain that affects us.

New Hampshire also has no sales tax.

Nobahar · Post by **Nobahar** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:52 pm

They will pass this sooner or later, they need money for war. And they've almost cut all the money they could possibly cut to students and higher education.

sbohdan · Post by **sbohdan** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:23 pm

Nobahar wrote:They will pass this sooner or later, they need money for war. And they've almost cut all the money they could possibly cut to students and higher education.

yeah, and next all highways and bridges will take toll eventually like in europe. they are cutting everything else that was the excuse for collecting taxes in the first place (schools, social assistance, healthcare etc.)
so simply put: cutting benefits and raising tax and creating new ones. simple mathematics

logical isn't it?
and telling you: it's all for your benefit

do they underestimate us so much or are we really that stupid and deserve it?

Kerii · Post by **Kerii** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:01 pm

Well, apparently, people were gullible enough to trade billions in goverment spending that would've gone towards public services like education for a $200 tax-cut check.

And people wonder why the richest nation in the world is producing students who score near rock bottom in worldwide education tests.

Don't even get me started on why 85% of the tax-cut money goes to the top 20% when they only paid 70% of the total.

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:14 pm

It's "funny" the way your country can spend soo much money.....yet, you don't direct see any benefit, ever..... Canada has the right idea with no medical costs.....and your taxes could easily pay for it!

(outsider looking in!)

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:43 pm

Got that right Ken.....and could probably edit the tax code to eliminate federal payroll tax deductions as well, and states could implement certain increases in sales tax to eliminate high-ass property taxes, state payroll taxes, car tax, amongst others......yeah the govt sucks wayyyyy too much out of our hard-earned paychecks.

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:50 pm

killswitch83 wrote:yeah the govt sucks wayyyyy too much out of our hard-earned paychecks.

Preaching to the choir good buddy
No matter what country your from......That says it all......

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:56 pm

well see, senators here have been proposing a 23% consumption tax that would eliminate federal payroll, property, and many other taxes, but it's unpopular with the older people as it would hurt them some and help the people who are definitely in need of it: Middle Class America. In said proposal there would be a prebate check to go toward the taxes you would have to pay, up to the poverty level (which I think is like 12k and some change for single people, and 25000 for married people). Here's the website if anyone is interested:

http://www.fairtax.org/

just take a look around.....I think it's a good tax because it also eliminates the Capital Gains Tax if I'm not mistaken, so people who have the money to invest in IRA's and the like won't have to worry about paying for gains on their investments if this consumption tax was to go through.....this is geared towards discouraging spending to an extent and really encourage saving.....I think it's a good thing IMO.

Shorty Lickens · Post by **Shorty Lickens** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:31 pm

I think we may have gotten into the issue already. But I'll carry it furthur. Has anyone read "Rich Dad, Poor Dad"?
I'm not asking if anybody likes the book or not. I think I already know what kind of responses I'll get. ;)

But the one thing that stuck with me was the authors comment about taxes.
For the longest time we never had taxes. Then they would come up with some any time they needed to fund a war or major project. Which was fine. Then they started leaving the taxes in place, even after the wars. Then they started putting special taxes on every goddamn thing they could think of.
Robert Kyosaki makes agood point: As soon as the goverment gets a taste for money, they cant let it go. They just want more and more to fund all these special projects. But it rarely helps and people just get used to being out more money each year.

I think I may have opened up the bee cage, but it had to be said.

Post by **DMB2000uk** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:47 pm

Just be thankful that you dont get charged anywhere near what we do for petrol* over here.

When you start getting taxes that make petrol prices equivilent to 87p a litre ($5.88 a gallon!!) you can start b*tchin

But coz i dont live there thats only one aspect I see. So I't probably isnt as rosy as I think it is.

Wouldnt mind savin alot of £££ and moving to america tho, I'd have nearly 2ce as much $$$

Dan

*You americans understand that british word?

pointreyes · Post by **pointreyes** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:29 pm

DMB2000uk wrote:When you start getting taxes that make petrol prices equivilent to 87p a litre ($5.88 a gallon!!) you can start b*tchin

I'm not saying this in a matter of fact type of attitude because I'm curious if anyone has done a study on this.

Europe public transportation vs United States public transportation

I wonder if due to the lack of a high quantity of the public transportation in the U.S. that we are actually forcing the petrol to be less due to higher demand that is ensued by having to use our vehicles more? It's actually more expensive for me to vanpool than to drive my car to work. And the other methods would take over 3 hours more of my time from my family for commuting a mere 15 miles between work and home.