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Poster family for gun locks...
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:32 pm
by bubba
Ok was doing some reading up on safes when I ran accross a link..
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060313/ap_ ... N5bmNhdA--
Mon Mar 13, 4:47 PM ET
ST. PAUL, Minn. - A 3-year-old boy shot his mother in the knee with a 9mm handgun he had found under a couch cushion over the weekend, police said.
It was the second time the boy had handled the gun on Sunday. The mother had taken the gun away from the child and removed the bullets — apparently overlooking one in the chamber — and put the weapon back on the couch.
When the boy picked the gun up a second time, it fired. "It appears to be accidental," said St. Paul police spokesman Pete Crum.
The woman was taken to Regions Hospital, with non-life-threatening injuries. "It could have been much more tragic had the child shot himself or hit the woman in a more vital area," Crum said.
The boy was put in the care of his father.
Authorities removed several guns from the home. Crum said they were all legal.
Police said they would forward the case to the Ramsey County Attorney's office for possible child-endangerment charges.
"There are two lessons to learn: Don't let your children play with guns. Always treat a gun as though it's loaded," Crum said.
Its amazing, you need a licence for a gun, to drive, hell even to cut hair. but any dumba** can have a kid.
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:28 pm
by Topher
"It appears to be accidental,"
So being stupid is an accident?
Hey, this is America right? Next thing you know, she'll sue the pistol manufacturer for not designing a "child proof" trigger.
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:31 pm
by -mogwai
Topher wrote:"It appears to be accidental,"
So being stupid is an accident?
Hey, this is America right? Next thing you know, she'll sue the pistol manufacturer for not designing a "child proof" trigger.
that should be a class-action suit, actually...
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:20 am
by infinitevalence
if they put child proof triggers on guns we would be over run by deer, and ducks
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:00 am
by bubba
-mogwai wrote:that should be a class-action suit, actually...
You can't be serious... I don't want a debate, but you can't be serious. How would a dumb a** who left a LOADED wepon on/under the couch around a 3 year old child warrent a class action law suit.
infinitevalence wrote:if they put child proof triggers on guns we would be over run by deer, and ducks
ooh... that was a low blow.... funny but low.
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:44 am
by infinitevalence
yes but im also saying that hunters provide a service
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:52 am
by Apoptosis
crazy
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:08 am
by -mogwai
bubba wrote:-mogwai wrote:that should be a class-action suit, actually...
You can't be serious... I don't want a debate, but you can't be serious. How would a dumb a** who left a LOADED wepon on/under the couch around a 3 year old child warrent a class action law suit.
infinitevalence wrote:if they put child proof triggers on guns we would be over run by deer, and ducks
ooh... that was a low blow.... funny but low.
i was just saying that if there was going to be a suit against a gun manufacturer for a child safety lock, it should be a class action suit. it's not about the individual who left the gun lying around... it's about the potential that it might be used by someone who wasn't meant to use it (for example, babies getting into cupboards with toxic cleaning supplies and whatnot).
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:45 am
by bubba
but if it was put up and stored properly then the 3 year old wouldnt have got into it. just like the cleaners.
some guns, like my colt have a grip saftey along with the main saftey. if you cant grip it tight enough no boom boom.
but just the idea of going after a company.... if the wepon had been stored properly and not on the couch then mom wouldnt have a limp. personal blame has to be taken somewere along the line.
ok I'm done venting
... sorry. some things just hack me off
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:56 am
by -mogwai
bubba wrote:but if it was put up and stored properly then the 3 year old wouldnt have got into it. just like the cleaners.
some guns, like my colt have a grip saftey along with the main saftey. if you cant grip it tight enough no boom boom.
but just the idea of going after a company.... if the wepon had been stored properly and not on the couch then mom wouldnt have a limp. personal blame has to be taken somewere along the line.
ok I'm done venting
... sorry. some things just hack me off
look, dude... i don't disagree. people should store their guns properly. however, not every gun owner's very bright and the same goes for children. gunmakers need to be cautious of every risk and accomodate accordingly. after all, it's a gun... it kills people.
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:48 pm
by Topher
Ah yes... But is it the gun, or the bullet that kills people?
Or the fool pulling the trigger?
That's a matter of debate and opinion.
I could say that baseball bats kill people too.
If you repetedly bashed someone with one.
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:57 pm
by novicegamer
If they put child proof triggers on guns then how would Dick Chaney shoot more lawyers ??
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:20 pm
by -mogwai
Topher wrote:
Ah yes... But is it the gun, or the bullet that kills people?
Or the fool pulling the trigger?
That's a matter of debate and opinion.
I could say that baseball bats kill people too.
If you repetedly bashed someone with one.
baseball bats don't fire on their own sometimes.