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Are we testing the right people?

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:22 am
by T-Shirt
California prinicpal fails reading comprehension and common sense test.

School Makes Kids Use Buckets for Toilets

INGLEWOOD, Calif. -- A principal trying to prevent walkouts during immigration rallies inadvertently introduced a lockdown so strict that children weren't allowed to go to the bathroom, and instead had to use buckets in the classroom, an official said.

Worthington Elementary School Principal Angie Marquez imposed the lockdown March 27 as nearly 40,000 students across Southern California left classes to attend immigrants' rights demonstrations.


Marquez apparently misread the district handbook and ordered a lockdown designed for nuclear attacks.

Tim Brown, the district's director of operations, confirmed some students used buckets but said the principal's order to impose the most severe type of lockdown was an "honest mistake."



Wake up people, it's 2006, do you want idiots like that teaching your children?

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:22 pm
by Apoptosis
most principles in Missouri were teachers long before they took a seat in the office... i can't believe that happened.

Re: Are we testing the right people?

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:52 pm
by pointreyes
T-Shirt wrote:Wake up people, it's 2006, do you want idiots like that teaching your children?
No, but unfortunately when you live in a Socialist state like I live in - the one south of the state you are in, you are bound to get ripped. Seriously, I"m getting taxed in a manner that 60% of my taxes go to schools that complain about no $$$ and are even thinking about sueing the state so that they can have enough money to pay the administrators, er the teachers. Interestingly, the State constitution does support public schools - it state's it will help to provide a building for the teachers. :P

Maybe when we can finally get down to a 4th grade reading level in the country these type of mistakes of not reading a manual correctly will not occur. Yeah right. :D

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:01 am
by dday
We became so frustrated with the school system and their lack of effectiveness that we pulled our twins out of first grade and homeschooled them through 12th. They scored 33 out of 35 on the ACT (our college entrance exam) and both received academic scholarships. Do you think that would've happened in public school? My youngest (14) has never been to public school and he's brighter than any of his contemporaries....when he lets it show. And I pay taxes just like everyone else that are 60% ear-marked for education without any of the benefit. A co-worker of mine transferred here from Texas in January, her son still doesn't have a book for Science or English , the school says they don't have one. No surprise that he's failing those classes. Man, some heads would be rolling......

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:06 am
by pcrobot
That's weird.... :|

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:14 pm
by pointreyes
dday wrote:We became so frustrated with the school system and their lack of effectiveness that we pulled our twins out of first grade and homeschooled them through 12th.
Yahoo! Another home schooler. :drinkers:

Only have five daughters that my wife and I are home schooling. :rolleyes:

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:21 pm
by dday
It's catching on fast.

Are any of your girls in the same grade? or do you have school books all over the place?

Once they hit 7th grade, we started video school from A Beka. That way, Mom didn't feel like she was over her head trying to teach Physics and Advanced Math...... they liked it.

Then again the younger one, he's another story....but he's my computer geek buddy... :)

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:23 pm
by pointreyes
My kids are young so we are busy with the basics. However, I have been teaching them simple science related topics in everyday life in hopes in making it easier for them when it's time to get serious on the subject matter. My oldest daughter, 9 yrs old, can read books at a much higher level.

What I really like about home schooling is the scheduling. Want to go on a vacation when all the other kids are in school? Nooooo problem. :mrgreen:

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:26 pm
by T-Shirt
We considered home schooling, but thought the socialization (ie:meeting and dealing with other kids) of the local school was important (we live out in the country away from most other kids his age, other contact is not easy). at least through 8th grade. (helps that its a very good school district)
we still provide as many other "learning experiences" as possible.
However i do see alot of "teaching to the (state) test", very narrow, "these are similar questions", rather than "this is one of the ways to do it, here is another, use the one that works best for you" that I would prefer.
However even the 'lunch ladies' would guess that something in the instructions was not quite right and call the district office BEFORE allowing a lockdown to go so far.
59% plus special levies go to school here, which I happily pay to ensure at least basic education for all, but I would be willing to pay even more IF the district and the stae abandoned 'no child left behind' to instead offer the best instruction available. it would cost about the same and lose the adminstration overload spending their time figuring out how to qualify for the most money from the most programs.
It seems we are forced hire more based on the best system manipulators rather than the best educators, to meet federal goals.
fortunately that has not filtered down to teaching staff nor the local prinipals yet

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:11 pm
by stev
dday wrote:...We became so frustrated with the school system and their lack of effectiveness that we pulled our twins out of first grade and homeschooled them through 12th. ...


dday,

We're with you on the homeschooling. We're into our 10th year with the first three young'ins. We're using the PACE program for the two in high school and A-Beka for the elementary grades.

Stev