BF 2142 - Spyware

[NAiLs]

Um, actually, it says on teh back of the box that an internet connection is required to register, and to play. Seeing as there is a an off-line single-player version, howcome you need an internet connection?



And yes, the software DOES NOT WORK UNLESS YOU REMOVE A WINDOWS SECURITY PATCH.







It doesn't work.





So, uh, what's the big deal?


Like i said in the first post reporting what it does, it can only use info garnered via your ip...harmless, and not spyware.

LoL. You better get off the internet dude...you know that this very forum could od the same thing?

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying EA is ok...because this is totally not what i think. But you don't know what you are talking about, and are voicing your OPINION as fact. that I cannot tolerate. It's like teaching kids that killing cats for fun is ok.

lol... Are you like 14 years old? I'm not going to bash you in any way, that's just how I gather your posts to be... very impertinent. If shooting cats isn't ok, then I guess installing spyware without your prior knowledge isn't ok either. Why would you need an internet connection? How about to play online or to gather updates? I'm doubting it's a *required* item, but if it is, show me a picture of the label on the box. Why on earth would someone say, "Oh, hey! It requires an internet connection. I'm guessing it's because I need to install spyware so some anonymous company can gather data off my computer without my knowledge? Yeah, that sounds about right."



I'm sorry, but you seem to be the ONLY person on this earth who will accept spyware to be installed on their computer. Everyone on this forum and everywhere else in the world who knows a thing or two about computers dislikes spyware 100%... even if it's for a game, it's not acceptable. If you want to accept spyware being installed on your computer, go right ahead... I won't stop you in any way. Data mining companies like kids like you who don't care what is installed on their computer or what information they give out!


Also, I don't think my friends forums would be gathering information about me... I've used phpBB before...


But, I'm done. I don't really want to argue about how stupid EA is here, maybe over on the BF2142 fan sites instead.

[cadaveca]

**REGISTRATION VIA INTERNET REQUIRED TO PLAY.

on the front of the box.

**REGISTRATION VIA INTERNET REQUIRED TO PLAY. INTERNET CONNECTION REQUIRED. EA TERMS & CONDITTIONS AND FEATURE UPDATES CAN BE FOUND AT http://www.ea.com. YOU MUST BE 13+ TO REGISTER ONLINE. EA MAY RETIRE FEATURES AFTER 30 DAYS NOTICE POSTED ON http://www.ea.com

On the back of the box.

LoL. Picture as proof? YOU must be 14. Go check it out for yourself. I'm sure some store close to you has it in stock. What reason would i have to lie? NONE.

I'm 29, married w/ 3 kids, and retired.

And once again, I'd like to see where EA claims it may send your personal info, other than your ip, to anywhere(doesn't even send the IP, you send it to the server when you join a game, just like you did when you clicked on this webpage).

The in-game advertisement is respectful of players' privacy: it never accesses files not directly related to the game, and it does not capture personal data such as cookies, account login detail, gameplay behaviour or surfing history. As it is an integrated part of Battlefield 2142 and not a separate program, it only runs when the game is running.

Because BF2142 delivers ads by region, the IP address of the player is used to determine the region of the player and helps serve ads by region and language; for instance, a player in Paris will be presented with ads in French. Note that this IP address is not stored on the advertisement server and is not repurposed for other uses.

A unique ID number is anonymously assigned the first time the player joins a Battlefield 2142 online game. It is stored locally on the PC but is not linked to any personal details.

The in-game advertisement gathers what we call "impression data", such as location of the billboard in the game or duration of advertisement impression. It helps see how many people have seen an ad - but not who has seen it.

We are also conscious that the advertisement shouldn’t distract the player from the overall gaming experience, so all ads fit in the unique environment of each level in the game. The content of the ads is also controlled to ensure that no offensive content is displayed in Battlefield 2142.

We all hope that this explanation will address recent concerns on the advertisement in Battlefield 2142. See you on the Battlefield.

- The Dice Live Team

hmm..spyware? I think not.

Now, without that Windows update, yes, it could be used as spyware, but like i said earlier, this update ensures that it cannot. So, unless you take actions that will make your machine vulnerable, there is no need for concerns over privacy.

I had to come back and add that i find your post highly offensive. You are spreading rumours...unbased rumours, at that, that cannot be backed up. I, on the other hand, have something to back up my claims, and always do, when i post. Sometimes i can be wrong, but not in this instance.

However, if you have some proof that what you SAY is happpening, is in fact happeneing, then you have my full attention, but otherwise, the only thing you have done here is waste space in this thread, and on Legit's server...for lies. That's just not right, dude(or dudette).


My posts...yes, they are full of pride. I'm happy about who and what I am, and I've been told I'm overly confident...and i guess that would be right, because i'm not afraid to show how i feel, nor am i concerned over who may be peeping into my life... If it makes me look like an excited 14-year-old to you, that's just fine...that's who I am...immature by you is OK by me. I hope that i can keep that same attitude until I'm about to die...it means that I should be able to relate to my kids when they hit that teenage period. One can only hope...

Glad you find yourself worthy of judging me, without knowing me.


Oh, and by the way, at the bottom of the page...that google ad...does the same thing as BF2142 does. Better go put that tinfoil hat back on!

[NAiLs]

Oh, and by the way, at the bottom of the page...that google ad...does the same thing as BF2142 does. Guy with axe Better go put that tinfoil hat back on!

I don't have a single advertisement on my webpages as they're all blocked.

LoL. Picture as proof? YOU must be 14.

Glad you find yourself worthy of judging me, without knowing me.

Glad you can do the same! ;) Be careful of your words, my friend. You make unwise decisions in them.

Just an FYI, your little "internet connection required" had NOTHING to do with the adware/spyware that is included with the game. You just show that it is required to validate the software like Valve does.


I don't want to bicker on a professional website's forums anymore. Nate (Apop) is my friend and I don't want to trash his forums. You can have your opinion, I respect that, but you can start respecting others opinions too, not just calling the persons opinion an insult and bashing them for it.


Good day!

P.S. You don't have to tell me how computers and the internet work! It's my job...

[Dragon_Cooler]

Um, actually, it says on teh back of the box that an internet connection is required to register, and to play. Seeing as there is a an off-line single-player version, howcome you need an internet connection?

Im not attacking you on this, and i have no reason to, you have had excellent posts, but BF2 you have to have an internet connection to register and play, steam you have to register and play, none of those said anything on the outside. Hopefully you get my point! lol

[cadaveca]

Unfortunately, it says on the back, single sentence: Internet Connection Required. In the face of a court of law, this is a seperate requirement, denoted by the period. The first requirement says you must first register, via the internet.

And yes, I must admit this whole "ordeal" is a bit strange, but I still fail to see this as spyware. It doesn't say nothing about the spyware, IMHO, because there is none. They imform you by a seperate leaflet that other communications may happen, as this is what the EA legal team required to be sure that any lawsuit due to the "extra content" is well known before someone installs the game. Personally, i think that paper should cover the front too...or the back, but that still doesn't make it spyware.

"Oh, it's not on the outside, because it's spyware." This is what gets me. adware, maybe...but it's not using cookies, AFAIK. If it is, well then, there may well be a valid argument against all of this.

I'd not have this position if anyone out there was attacking Valve and STEAM for taking this far further than EA does, but noone seems to mind Valve doing it...so why the animosity towards EA?

If someone could provide evidence of it being spyware, by say, a packet capture, or something, and it does use personal info, then i'm completely wrong. Until then, however, this is being blown way out of proportion.

So please, SOMEONE prove me wrong.

BTW, i've yet to see an ad.

[DMB2000uk]

Makes you wonder if its being used for its intended purpose then

And if you kept the security patch, will you be seeing ads?

Dan

[smack323]

its been awile since the game has been out and i dont think they have started sending ads in game yet.. not that i have noticed anyway

[cyberneticimplant]

I hate EA.

[smack323]

the thing i hate about EA is that they spend more time feeding players a bunch of BS about the game instead of just making a solid game with no bugs.. why is it that when games are out for the xbox or nintendo or sega or any system the games dont have nearly the amout if any bugs with the gameplay or game in general..

[DaIceMan]

the thing i hate about EA is that they spend more time feeding players a bunch of BS about the game instead of just making a solid game with no bugs.. why is it that when games are out for the xbox or nintendo or sega or any system the games dont have nearly the amout if any bugs with the gameplay or game in general..

because... for the most part, when console games drop, vendors/manufacturers don't have the option of releasing a patch to fix it. This generally leads to better coded games, with fewer bugs.

For PC games, companies... such as EA and Ubisoft... can lie and string on customers for months and years claiming that the next patch will fix all your worries. Too bad, this is usually NOT the case.

[bigblockmatt]

i dont know exactly how computer games are produced but would assume that with computer games it is hard to get something that works perfectly on every single possible system out there. When you make a game for a console system, the game producer knows exactly what hardware the game must work with. the possibility for errors is reduced because they know exactly what they are working with. they can optimize the game specifically to the hardware being used, unlike computer games.

[smack323]

yeah that is a very good point BBM. I actully thought along those lines after my last post. but it still doesnt explane bugs in the game across the board of all brands/types of computers. nothing worse than getting a patch to "FIX" a bug and it ends up causing two more.. EA is notorius for this this in the BF2/2142 series. after two months they release a patch to fix a bug. then another patch two days later to fix the patch they just released. the worst part is its obvious problems that can be noticed with in 2 or 3 minutes of playing.. how it wasnt caught by testers blows my mind.