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win95 games on XP

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:50 pm
by skier
why do they run like crap, if at all

is it because of optimization? because i would assume a DX9.0b card would power through a game needing DX5 like its not even on, yet, in playing, it seems like its in super slo-mo

(using NFS 3, and yes i've changed the compatibility mode for the game to run in win95 and win98, both terrible)

Re: win95 games on XP

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:06 pm
by top
From what I've experienced is that it's all in the coding and not so much the operating system itself. Most games are coded very crappy. It's always been like that.

If you look at id Games that were made back in the win95 days, you'll see that they still run perfectly in XP, and probably even in Vista. It's because their developers are good coders who make porting very compatible. The games could also be very compatible because of OpenGL

Then there's the other developers that just try to earn a quick buck. I've got this game called Killing Time for the PC (also ported to 3DO) and the game will run on XP but if Windows Media 10 and above is installed, the game will crash after cinematic scenes.

Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II (I think Win98 Game) will also not run with WM 10 or above. It will but you'll get the crummiest cinematic scenes ever.

Then there's System Shock 2, that will not run on XP with dual 7900GTX's, but will run in the same operating system with a GeForce4.

So pretty much every aspect is involved and a lot of times it's not just the OS. It's hard to find good programmers, and the good ones are usually hackers anyway.

Re: win95 games on XP

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:10 pm
by skier
well what happens in need for speed is that you press the gas, and it accelerates like 3-5 seconds later, steering is like 10 seconds delayed

Re: win95 games on XP

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:15 pm
by top
It could be anything, seriously. It could be from a bottleneck in the cpu/memory usage in the game to some other software(Perhaps Firewall/AV) screwing with the programs input controls. It could even be your keyboard and/or mouse. Is your keyboard USB?

Re: win95 games on XP

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:48 pm
by skier
PS/2 dell Motherboard, Razer Deathadder mouse(i bring that up because on some screens, the mouse only moves in .5" increments and only if i move the mouse extremely slow, it will not even move otherwise), 2GB RAM, 3.0GHz P4 HT, 16 pixelpipeline ATI x850XT 256MB OC

Re: win95 games on XP

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:51 pm
by top
Definitely try a PS/2 mouse or a cheap USB MS mouse. Other than that, I dunno what to tell ya.

Re: win95 games on XP

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:10 pm
by DMB2000uk
You got the compatibility mode on for the program?

Dan

Re: win95 games on XP

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:20 am
by kappage
DMB2000uk wrote:You got the compatibility mode on for the program?

Dan
yea he said earlier that he tried both win 95 and 98

having a bad day? or still half asleep? Ive had days like this... ](*,)

Re: win95 games on XP

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:04 am
by DMB2000uk
I was probably about ready to fall asleep.

Everyone misses things now and again, even me :mrgreen:

Dan

Re: win95 games on XP

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:04 am
by unfaithfulsfan
It broke my heart when the original "Abe's Oddysee" wouldn't run even in compatibility mode. I really loved that game and it's sequel "Exoddus". Thanks for bringing up such a painful memory. I'll just go cry now. . :mrgreen:

Jajck

Re: win95 games on XP

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:59 am
by kappage
unfaithfulsfan wrote:It broke my heart when the original "Abe's Oddysee" wouldn't run even in compatibility mode. I really loved that game and it's sequel "Exoddus". Thanks for bringing up such a painful memory. I'll just go cry now. . :mrgreen:

Jajck
I havnt played that game in YEARS!!! just had like a whole Brain thing going where i thought about the good old past times...

Re: win95 games on XP

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:19 am
by skier
lol, my brother has that for playstation, its such a funny game in some parts