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DO you need net 24/7 to fold?
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:57 pm
by kappage
Well, here at home i often try to set my computer to download or defrag over night and my dad is a bit of a cautious person, when it comes to computers sucking down loads of power, he is also the sort of person that has to be right so i cant say otherwise. I tried saying otherwise like xbox lives internet usage for halo 2 which is supposed to use 10mb per hour but no no, dad reckons its more. but anyways can i setup a machine that has net every day but not 24/7?
Re: DO you need net 24/7 to fold?
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:06 pm
by bubba
The only time that F@H uses the net is to send and receive work units, out side of that its just chunking away on the PC.
Re: DO you need net 24/7 to fold?
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:37 pm
by stev
Yes, F@H only uses the net to send/receive WU's.
When F@H needs to connect to the net, I need to lower my hardware firewall prior to sending and receiving WU's. So, I have the option in F@H turned on to alert me to those times. If you turn that option on yourself, you can delay sending and receiving WU's until your machine is connected to the net.
Re: DO you need net 24/7 to fold?
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:24 pm
by dicecca112
not true guys. If you use SMP it needs a Internet Connection. Other clients do not
Re: DO you need net 24/7 to fold?
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:14 pm
by kappage
Well then, it seems that i might either just do that or go buy a cheap wireless card. Thanks a Bunch!
Re: DO you need net 24/7 to fold?
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:33 pm
by stev
I'm using the Windows SMP GUI F@H. It only needs to connect to the internet when sending or receiving WU's. Other than that it runs in the background just fine while the machine isn't connected to the net.
This will also work with dial-up systems too.

Re: DO you need net 24/7 to fold?
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:23 pm
by dicecca112
SMP uses MPiexec which uses the internet, as far as I know it needs the net or it can't crunch
Re: DO you need net 24/7 to fold?
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:14 am
by camaroguy1998
I've had my wireless lose the signal and I've disconnected my network cable and both cause the SMP client to shutdown immediately!
The standard client only needs internet access to send and receive WU's.
Re: DO you need net 24/7 to fold?
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:18 am
by bubba
Why does the SMP client need to have call home so much?
Re: DO you need net 24/7 to fold?
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:02 am
by stev
camaroguy1998 wrote:The standard client only needs internet access to send and receive WU's.
That's what I'm using.

Re: DO you need net 24/7 to fold?
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:36 am
by dicecca112
bubba wrote:Why does the SMP client need to have call home so much?
It doesn't call home
Basically it uses the internet to make sure the threads are running in synch correctly. Remove that, and the 4 threads of the SMP can't talk to each other anymore
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Message_Passing_Interface
Re: DO you need net 24/7 to fold?
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:08 pm
by DMB2000uk
Doesn't it just do all that on the loopback adaptor?
Dan
Re: DO you need net 24/7 to fold?
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:45 pm
by dicecca112
technically it makes sense that if you didn't have a network card available, and you setup a loopback adapter it could work. But then you'd have to have a network adapter to send the results in.