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Folding Team Ready To Break 20 Million, But Slowing Down
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:48 pm
by Apoptosis
The stats show that we are on the verge of breaking 20 million team points, but also slowing down.
So far we are 25 days down this month and only have 682,854 points (15,214 points per day), which is good but in March we had 1,675,886 points (54,060 points per day). We are only turning in 28% of the points we are doing a few months ago...
Do we need another contest? What do you guys think will boost production?
Re: Folding Team Ready To Break 20 Million, But Slowing Down
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:31 am
by KnightRid
Seems the contests boost production for that month, but then people just disappear. Are any of the winners of the previous flding contests still here and folding? Well except me :p
I think they help get people interested in folding! I just dont know what to say to try for keeping people long term. I want to get into the top 100
Have any t-shirts, mugs, etc to throw at people? Maybe give some of that promotional stuff away to get people to start folding, then do a contest for something bigger (if you have anything bigger that is).
Mike
If I can figure out why this c2d keep shutting off I can FINALLY get that folding also. I think its the MB though since the PS is working fine on this system since my other one took the full dump the other day. Anyone have a CHEAP MB for a c2d, built in video would be fine.

Re: Folding Team Ready To Break 20 Million, But Slowing Down
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:41 am
by dicecca112
Part of it, is because its the summer.
Re: Folding Team Ready To Break 20 Million, But Slowing Down
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:14 am
by kenc51
I'm not folding on my main rig anymore as I've just moved into a new place.
There's less of us in the new place sharing the bills, so for the moment I'm watching my power usage

Re: Folding Team Ready To Break 20 Million, But Slowing Down
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:30 am
by dicecca112
I figured something like that, I am starting to really pull away from you, I knew something was wrong
Re: Folding Team Ready To Break 20 Million, But Slowing Down
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 3:08 pm
by geokilla
#1 reason why F@H is slowing down. Electricity bill. Price of oil is just making everything more expensive. I've considered stopping F@H on my rig, but then my computer's never on 24/7 so the electricity bill is probably $10 more expensive. However, extra $10 a month is a lot in a year. That's $120!
#2 reason: I use the -advmethods and lately, F@H are distributing projects that are worth less than 180 points most of the time. My PPD has dropped a lot, even though it was low before. People using the -advmethods may consider taking out the flag for a couple of months. I kept mine in there because F@H claims that these WUs are time-sensitive. Everything should be back to normal in a couple of months.
#3 reason: GPU folding isn't fast enough for the new WUs. Plus, more people use NVIDIA graphic cards now instead of ATI (that's a guess btw) since they're faster in terms of gaming. Once GPU folding is available for NVIDIA GPUs, I guess that some folders would choose to fold on their idle-most-of-the-time GPU. However' with NVIDIA's Hybrid SLI, things might not happen as I expect it to be.
#4 reason. Some people probably left Legit Reviews for some other team, or they just stopped folding altogether. I checked on folding.extremeoverclocking and it seems that all the people I'm passing in both LR and Team AnandTech, none of them fold. No one that I can overtake or already overtook in the past has folded
as seen here.
Re: Folding Team Ready To Break 20 Million, But Slowing Down
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 3:18 pm
by dicecca112
geokilla wrote:#1 reason why F@H is slowing down. Electricity bill. Price of oil is just making everything more expensive. I've considered stopping F@H on my rig, but then my computer's never on 24/7 so the electricity bill is probably $10 more expensive. However, extra $10 a month is a lot in a year. That's $120!
#2 reason: I use the -advmethods and lately, F@H are distributing projects that are worth less than 180 points most of the time. My PPD has dropped a lot, even though it was low before. People using the -advmethods may consider taking out the flag for a couple of months. I kept mine in there because F@H claims that these WUs are time-sensitive. Everything should be back to normal in a couple of months.
#3 reason: GPU folding isn't fast enough for the new WUs. Plus, more people use NVIDIA graphic cards now instead of ATI (that's a guess btw) since they're faster in terms of gaming. Once GPU folding is available for NVIDIA GPUs, I guess that some folders would choose to fold on their idle-most-of-the-time GPU. However' with NVIDIA's Hybrid SLI, things might not happen as I expect it to be.
#4 reason. Some people probably left Legit Reviews for some other team, or they just stopped folding altogether. I checked on folding.extremeoverclocking and it seems that all the people I'm passing in both LR and Team AnandTech, none of them fold. No one that I can overtake or already overtook in the past has folded
as seen here.
1 and 2 I agree with. 3, I would forsee the Nvidia Client out in at least 3months, that will help us a lot. 4, its always been like that since I started folding here 3 years ago. Best we can do is have everyone donate as much as they can.
Re: Folding Team Ready To Break 20 Million, But Slowing Down
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:34 pm
by bmaverick
Summer is warmer needing the AC to run on the electric more. PC's generate heat. Too much heat for some. It's ideal in winter as a space heater.
I fold for another team, and they have seen a drop there too. The high cost of utilities in general is causing a down turn in many sectors.
To save on energy costs, my machines are powered down every night. If there was a free energy source to tap into for folding my machines would go around the clock.
Re: Folding Team Ready To Break 20 Million, But Slowing Down
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:41 pm
by geokilla
bmaverick wrote:To save on energy costs, my machines are powered down every night. If there was a free energy source to tap into for folding my machines would go around the clock.
There is a free energy source. First, you'll have to spend maybe couple thousands of dollars to do it though. Convert your house to run on solar energy and solar panels, then you'll be making so much electricity sometimes you'll be able to sell it back to the electricity grid. There was advertisements on the Canadian Tire flyers up here couple of years ago, and I think it said that the government paid like 40 cents for every kilowatt generated by those solar panels. If you plan to live in your current house for many many years and you have money to spare, you can consider doing that. I'd imagine that the resale value of your house would be higher than normal thanks to those solar panels.
Re: Folding Team Ready To Break 20 Million, But Slowing Down
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:05 am
by KnightRid
Anyone can make it to the top 5 - I did it! Sure I used to have 7,8 or even 9 machines folding for me, but now it is pretty much 2 or 3 and the only one giving any real points is this main system - Q6700 quad.
I doubt I will ever make it to #1, but it is still fun to try and get teh whole team up to the top 100, then the top 50, then the top 10
Mike
Trying to save energy - stop watching tv, dont use air conditioning, remove your frig and freezer and use an ice block, dont use your stove or oven because anything that heats up uses more energy, stop the hot water heater and just take cold showers/baths, and NO lights! use candles.
Gets kinda crazy doesnt it ;) Stay at home for 1 weekend a month without any drinking or going out to eat and you will save enolugh to pay for the extra energy

Re: Folding Team Ready To Break 20 Million, But Slowing Down
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:24 pm
by DMB2000uk
Wow, I remember when we just broke 1 million. SMP really has boosted points.
Dan
Re: Folding Team Ready To Break 20 Million, But Slowing Down
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:57 am
by skier
im starting to put the P4 3.0 HT work, in text only, but the CPUs only @50%, and there are two checkpoints between each %, so it goes rather slow, i'll try graphical once the WU is done because i would have to redo the client info anyway
Re: Folding Team Ready To Break 20 Million, But Slowing Down
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 10:08 am
by vicaphit
I agree with the heat. My room is not very large, and this thing just cranks up the heat. Like I said when I started, I will not be a real serious folder, but I will do it when I can.
Re: Folding Team Ready To Break 20 Million, But Slowing Down
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:24 pm
by Zertz
It gets way too hot in the computer room now to leave it on 24/7. During the winter it was fine, I could just leave the computer on and not heat much or not at all.
Re: Folding Team Ready To Break 20 Million, But Slowing Down
Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:45 am
by martini161
Zertz wrote:It gets way too hot in the computer room now to leave it on 24/7. During the winter it was fine, I could just leave the computer on and not heat much or not at all.
i keep my quad in the basement for exactly this reason! nice and cool down there all year
Re: Folding Team Ready To Break 20 Million, But Slowing Down
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:57 pm
by DaIceMan
I suffered as a child living in a mobile home with poor air conditioning. HOT all the time. Now I keep my basement a nice 68 deg. Even with all the machines running in the "computer room" the bill isn't much higher than without. I'll just skip drive thru fast food once a week to cover the extra cost of the PCs running.
Re: Folding Team Ready To Break 20 Million, But Slowing Down
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:52 am
by KnightRid
DaIceMan wrote:I suffered as a child living in a mobile home with poor air conditioning. HOT all the time. Now I keep my basement a nice 68 deg. Even with all the machines running in the "computer room" the bill isn't much higher than without. I'll just skip drive thru fast food once a week to cover the extra cost of the PCs running.
EXACTLY - thank you!!
Mike
p.s. kicking the c2d computer did not seem to stabalize the power to it, so I am back to the drawing board

I am using the PS in the quad ssytem right now, since my other one totally died and it is working fine, so it is back to the MB being the prolem I guess
