Get your 9600 GSO's while they're hot!
Get your 9600 GSO's while they're hot!
Looks like Nvidia is at it again with the product and name change guessing game. I need to find my damned secret decoder ring to figure this out.
http://en.expreview.com/2008/10/08/1049.html
Just to recap, those of you planning to buy a 9600 GSO for its folding performance will have to pay special attention shortly, the new (neutered) card has not made it to the market...yet.
Nvidia needs to figure out a naming system which signifies performance to the everyman, not just those who have hours to pour over the charts here on Legit Reviews. Intel does it, AMD does it, AMD does it for their video cards, how hard is it Nvidia?
I HIGHLY doubt that more than 1 or 2 sites would have gotten a sample of the new card to compare to the old...if they even bothered to send samples.
They also need to stop trying to dupe customers into buying less performance at the same name and price when they see that a nearly forgotten product suddenly starts flying off the shelves due to a niche use (incredible folding performance per dollar).
Sorry for the rant but this is just BS.
http://en.expreview.com/2008/10/08/1049.html
Just to recap, those of you planning to buy a 9600 GSO for its folding performance will have to pay special attention shortly, the new (neutered) card has not made it to the market...yet.
Nvidia needs to figure out a naming system which signifies performance to the everyman, not just those who have hours to pour over the charts here on Legit Reviews. Intel does it, AMD does it, AMD does it for their video cards, how hard is it Nvidia?
I HIGHLY doubt that more than 1 or 2 sites would have gotten a sample of the new card to compare to the old...if they even bothered to send samples.
They also need to stop trying to dupe customers into buying less performance at the same name and price when they see that a nearly forgotten product suddenly starts flying off the shelves due to a niche use (incredible folding performance per dollar).
Sorry for the rant but this is just BS.
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Re: Get your 9600 GSO's while they're hot!
what a bunch of crap... 96 shaders down to 48... GTFOH
Re: Get your 9600 GSO's while they're hot!
Check that..... I'm hearing that a member of another forum may have gotten one or two of these in a recent purchase. Make sure you do your home work, the new one is putting out around 2500 ppd vs. 5000+ for the original 9600 GSO.
edit: Moving this to the Folding forum as it is the most relevant.
edit: Moving this to the Folding forum as it is the most relevant.
Re: Get your 9600 GSO's while they're hot!
How the hell can you tell what you're getting then if you purchase on line? I should note that is it probably that they will remove the number of shader processors from the ads.
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Re: Get your 9600 GSO's while they're hot!
The only way I can seem to find is the memory configuration.DX wrote:How the hell can you tell what you're getting then if you purchase on line?
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Re: Get your 9600 GSO's while they're hot!
Goofy, I need to check the cards that I got. I haven't OC'd them because I need a better cooling solution in the case that they're in. My combined points between my machines varies between 8k and 10k. I was expecting that to be a bit higher, but figured I'd need to tweak first. I'm assuming that I'm good to go, but will double-check tonight.
Currently folding on:
(1) HSI 4850 (thanks LR!)
(2) EVGA 9600 GSO
[edit: stinking knee-jerk reactions, I think I'm good, both cards have 384MB]
Currently folding on:
(1) HSI 4850 (thanks LR!)
(2) EVGA 9600 GSO
[edit: stinking knee-jerk reactions, I think I'm good, both cards have 384MB]
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Re: Get your 9600 GSO's while they're hot!
Dear Nvidia,
I must admit that I have been quite a video card whore over the past couple years, going back and forth between you and ATI. I may have dipped my pen in Intel's ink a couple times. My promiscuity has gone from a ATI 7200, 9800 Pro, 1900XT to a Nvidia 8800 GTS 320, 8800 GTS 512 to my best purchase a 4870 1GB. Your merchandise is very confusing, deceiving and sometimes overpriced if not checked by your competitors. Consider this my goodbye to you until you get your act together.
Sincerely
Unhappy Customer
I must admit that I have been quite a video card whore over the past couple years, going back and forth between you and ATI. I may have dipped my pen in Intel's ink a couple times. My promiscuity has gone from a ATI 7200, 9800 Pro, 1900XT to a Nvidia 8800 GTS 320, 8800 GTS 512 to my best purchase a 4870 1GB. Your merchandise is very confusing, deceiving and sometimes overpriced if not checked by your competitors. Consider this my goodbye to you until you get your act together.
Sincerely
Unhappy Customer
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Re: Get your 9600 GSO's while they're hot!
The change hasn't happened yet, so anything you own now has 96 stream processorsSporg wrote:Goofy, I need to check the cards that I got. I haven't OC'd them because I need a better cooling solution in the case that they're in. My combined points between my machines varies between 8k and 10k. I was expecting that to be a bit higher, but figured I'd need to tweak first. I'm assuming that I'm good to go, but will double-check tonight.
Currently folding on:
(1) HSI 4850 (thanks LR!)
(2) EVGA 9600 GSO
[edit: stinking knee-jerk reactions, I think I'm good, both cards have 384MB]
Re: Get your 9600 GSO's while they're hot!
I dunno, this sure looks like one to me considering the memory size and width.Apoptosis wrote:The change hasn't happened yet, so anything you own now has 96 stream processorsSporg wrote:Goofy, I need to check the cards that I got. I haven't OC'd them because I need a better cooling solution in the case that they're in. My combined points between my machines varies between 8k and 10k. I was expecting that to be a bit higher, but figured I'd need to tweak first. I'm assuming that I'm good to go, but will double-check tonight.
Currently folding on:
(1) HSI 4850 (thanks LR!)
(2) EVGA 9600 GSO
[edit: stinking knee-jerk reactions, I think I'm good, both cards have 384MB]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814121255
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Re: Get your 9600 GSO's while they're hot!
I'm considering one of the 9600GSO's....
Will a PCI-e 2.0 card work on a 1.0 Mobo and if so what kind of performance hit will I take?
Will a PCI-e 2.0 card work on a 1.0 Mobo and if so what kind of performance hit will I take?
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Re: Get your 9600 GSO's while they're hot!
Look at the specs: Stream Processors - 96Bwall wrote:I dunno, this sure looks like one to me considering the memory size and width.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814121255
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Re: Get your 9600 GSO's while they're hot!
Nah, I'm good. Nate's right. I have two of these bad boys.Bwall wrote:I dunno, this sure looks like one to me considering the memory size and width.Apoptosis wrote:The change hasn't happened yet, so anything you own now has 96 stream processorsSporg wrote:Goofy, I need to check the cards that I got. I haven't OC'd them because I need a better cooling solution in the case that they're in. My combined points between my machines varies between 8k and 10k. I was expecting that to be a bit higher, but figured I'd need to tweak first. I'm assuming that I'm good to go, but will double-check tonight.
Currently folding on:
(1) HSI 4850 (thanks LR!)
(2) EVGA 9600 GSO
[edit: stinking knee-jerk reactions, I think I'm good, both cards have 384MB]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814121255
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814130356
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Re: Get your 9600 GSO's while they're hot!
Wow, newegg.ca really has some high prices: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6814130362
No mention of a rebate but the one on the .com is valid for .ca purchases. I know the Canadian dollar value has dropped but not that much.
No mention of a rebate but the one on the .com is valid for .ca purchases. I know the Canadian dollar value has dropped but not that much.
Re: Get your 9600 GSO's while they're hot!
No... look at the memory. You don't have 512mb on a 192bit-wide interface. Newegg simply got the # of shaders wrong, they DO get minor spec details wrong as I've seen this plenty of times before.Alathald wrote:Look at the specs: Stream Processors - 96Bwall wrote:I dunno, this sure looks like one to me considering the memory size and width.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814121255
What is interesting is that card is listed as 128bit memory interface... NOT 256bit as indicated in the image. So it is even more hobbled.... No one in their right mind would want a 512mb card with a 128bit interface. Assuming it actually had the shader power to use it, 48 shaders is nothing. It's just another 8600GTS, slightly more shaders and slightly less memory bandwidth.
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Re: Get your 9600 GSO's while they're hot!
mabye a bios flash could give the card back its shaders?
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Re: Get your 9600 GSO's while they're hot!
You can't create something that isn't there. G94 only comes with 64 shaders in it's entirety. Same story with the memory bus, you can't use something that isn't there.martini161 wrote:mabye a bios flash could give the card back its shaders?
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Re: Get your 9600 GSO's while they're hot!
See, that's the bad thing about this... we have no idea if that is an "original" or not. It doesn't look like it due to the memory specs but people on another forum think it's ok.
I guess the best advice is to stay away from anything other than 384MB or 768MB cards with 192-bit bus.
I guess the best advice is to stay away from anything other than 384MB or 768MB cards with 192-bit bus.