AMD Athlon 64 FX60 Processor Rumor Mill

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:32 am

I see, thanks for the clarification there......that's an eventual plan for myself as well, to have a file server with a hardware firewall and Cisco equipment, which all I have to do, if I want a deep discount, is consult my teacher and tell her what I need.....lucky me eh......she's CCNA, and linked up with Cisco for the discount, which is the only way you can get this discount I think.

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:36 am

Cool, but I think Apop made a good point!!!

How must are you willing to pay for a unlocked multi?

I said no more than ~$100 extra!
You?

gvblake22 · Post by **gvblake22** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:54 am

kenc51 wrote:Cool, but I think Apop made a good point!!!

How must are you willing to pay for a unlocked multi?

I said no more than ~$100 extra!
You?

A very maximum of $100. Probably more realistically like $75 though.
But, of course, that depends on what multipliers I do get. If I am paying to go from a 3000 to a 3200, it is worth it, but if I am buying an FX-60 that already has a 13x multi, I don't think I would pay any more for unlocked multi's because I don't think I would ever need anymore than 13x!!!

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:26 am

What about the current FX-57....you can simply change the multi on that and get a 3.0GHz FX!!!! Imagine you have VX ram, can only hit 240MHz, but the cpu can go higher, instead of using a divider, you can clock the fsb to 240 then up the multi on the cpu to get more performance.....

But yeah, ~€75 - €100 is the max I'd pay.....and if the 5000+ is going to be the same as the FX-60 except for the unlocked multi......there is no point.... now if the FX-60 was 2.8GHz, mayby as you can be sure to hit over 3.0GHz...

gvblake22 · Post by **gvblake22** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:02 am

kenc51 wrote:What about the current FX-57....you can simply change the multi on that and get a 3.0GHz FX!!!! Imagine you have VX ram, can only hit 240MHz, but the cpu can go higher, instead of using a divider, you can clock the fsb to 240 then up the multi on the cpu to get more performance.....

Wellll, that's under the assumption that it will be able to do 3Ghz stable. It's a pretty good chance, but if you think about it, you have just as much of a chance to get 231x13 stable as you do 200x15. 231mhz HTT is nothin'!

I can see having the high unlocked multipliers if you were on high end water or extreme cooling where you would need to get every advantage you can. But for the majority of overclockers, that is not the reality and therefor having more than a 13x multiplier would not really be necessary, but it WOULD be cool, heh.

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:14 am

gvblake22 wrote:
kenc51 wrote:What about the current FX-57....you can simply change the multi on that and get a 3.0GHz FX!!!! Imagine you have VX ram, can only hit 240MHz, but the cpu can go higher, instead of using a divider, you can clock the fsb to 240 then up the multi on the cpu to get more performance.....
Wellll, that's under the assumption that it will be able to do 3Ghz stable. It's a pretty good chance, but if you think about it, you have just as much of a chance to get 231x13 stable as you do 200x15. 231mhz HTT is nothin'!

I can see having the high unlocked multipliers if you were on high end water or extreme cooling where you would need to get every advantage you can. But for the majority of overclockers, that is not the reality and therefor having more than a 13x multiplier would not really be necessary, but it WOULD be cool, heh.

thats my point.....just since the FX chips are "better", so normally clock higher, IF AMD allowed overvolting on the FX line, it would be like them saying we allow overclocking, except they don't.. THIS would mean i would pay extra
OCZ do the same thing, my 3200 gold sticks will do 2-2-2-5 @ 2.7v - rated for 2.85v but warrantied till 3.1v....yet OCZ only warranty this ram to run @ ddr 400 --> the extra allowed voltage doesn't say you can overclock, but why allow more voltages...Unless you need to OC!

Post by **FZ1** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:15 am

Yeah, I'd skip the FX, though I agree a higher multi would make life easier.

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:16 am

Vstrom wrote:Yeah, I'd skip the FX, though I agree a higher multi would make life easier.

How must are you willing to pay for a unlocked multi?

Post by **FZ1** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:25 am

I wouldn't. I'd invest the extra cash into a better vid card and/or memory.

rpsgc · Post by **rpsgc** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:47 am

So, has anybody seen this or do you think it's 'fake' ?

P.S.: Apparently they clock up to 3GHz easily!

Thor · Post by **Thor** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:31 pm

Well, the s939 opterons hit 2.9-3ghz easily on good cooling, so it isn't that much of a stretch.

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:31 pm

rpsgc wrote:So, has anybody seen this or do you think it's 'fake' ?

P.S.: Apparently they clock up to 3GHz easily!

It's prob real.....AMD have had samples of that chip out for a while!
Motherboard makers need 'em to qualify their boards and such....

a 400MHz OC is the standard for X2's that have 2MB of cache, so if it comes @ 2.6 stock, I can see some hitting over 3GHz when their released!!!!!!

EvilCloudStrife · Post by **EvilCloudStrife** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:16 pm

thats socket 939 or what?

rpsgc · Post by **rpsgc** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:27 pm

EvilCloudStrife wrote:thats socket 939 or what?

I guess...

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:54 pm

the FX dual-core processors are going to be on M2 actually, if you look on Anandtech's website, you'll find an article on the FX-62, and it goes into detail from there. The link to it is posted on page one of this thread, forgot to copy and paste it, rofl, long day here

rpsgc · Post by **rpsgc** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:41 am

killswitch83 wrote:the FX dual-core processors are going to be on M2 actually, if you look on Anandtech's website, you'll find an article on the FX-62, and it goes into detail from there. The link to it is posted on page one of this thread, forgot to copy and paste it, rofl, long day here

Actually this one is a Socket 939.
http://www.pcpop.com/doc/App/ImageShow. ... =000168336

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:24 am

FX60 will be dual core @ 2.6GHz and the last FX chip on S939!!!
FX62 will be released with M2

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:23 am

woops, won't make that assumption again, lol

my bad, I thought they both were on M2....hmmm.......if I come into a small fortune, that would be an awesome chip to have.......elsewise, X2 will work just fine, heheh

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:46 am

killswitch83 wrote:woops, won't make that assumption again, lol

my bad, I thought they both were on M2....hmmm.......if I come into a small fortune, that would be an awesome chip to have.......elsewise, X2 will work just fine, heheh

X2 is just as good, all your paying for is the unlocked multi and mayby the chance to OC a little higher...

Actually I've just noticed --> I'm running a FX60 @ the mo' -> only thing is I can't OC anymore

Dual core opteron's look good too. Problem there is no Bios will official support it! DFI etc. are told by AMD not to provide direct support for server chips. they can't even say the lanparty/infinity boards will work -> they do work but you can't get support for it!

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:38 pm

well damn, lol.....I don't believe I'll be getting an Opteron chip in time before they stop selling them to the public anyways. I'll aim for the X2 chip for now, but as a temporary solution to my dying computer, I'm going to get a 3200+ Venice as soon as I can....can get it cheap from a good friend of mine.