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Is there a differents

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 8:39 pm
by DL13
Hi, I am planing a new build and I am going to get a Phenom II 810 but I started to think, is there a noticeable different in performers between the quad and triple core Phenom II?? :-k

Re: Is there a differents

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 8:51 pm
by Apoptosis
I look at it like this...

For multi-threaded applications the quad-core is hands down the better choice...

For a gamer the triple-core would be better as most games aren't threaded for four cores and each of the three cores would have more cache as the cache is divided three ways and not four.

Re: Is there a differents

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:23 pm
by pwcmed
Your e8400 should perform better than a 810 or about the same.

Re: Is there a differents

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:49 pm
by DL13
What about multitasking with a triple, or should I just pay the extra buk? On occasion I multitask and when I play a certain game and some programs that run in the background they interfere with my game but not all of the time.
I am planing to OC some and I rather have the multiplier unlocked.

I didn't relies that my e8400 would be better than the 810. I'm defiantly thinking twice about the 810.

Re: Is there a differents

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:53 pm
by Gomeler
Get that E8400 up to 4GHz to 4.2GHz and it'll be plenty fast. The only difference you'd notice going to a quad would be in encoding or unzipping applications. Otherwise I can't think of anything most users do that push a dual-core to 100%.

Re: Is there a differents

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:21 pm
by DL13
Gomeler wrote:Get that E8400 up to 4GHz to 4.2GHz and it'll be plenty fast.
Every time I try my ram becomes unstable. I would loos a lot of speed to keep the ram stable.
I'm giving my son the Intel and the AMD is for something different to clock.

Re: Is there a differents

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 5:48 am
by Apoptosis
Why not just reduce the memory clock frequency by lowering the divider?

Re: Is there a differents

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 7:33 pm
by DL13
Apoptosis wrote:Why not just reduce the memory clock frequency by lowering the divider?
So lowering the divider I'll be able to raise fsb and still have good memory clock speed with out it going to high?

Re: Is there a differents

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:24 pm
by Major_A
No, he's referring to the RAM divider in your BIOS. Look in your manual on page 3-11, it's called DRAM Frequency. Lower than to a smaller number and then try to push your CPU faster.

Re: Is there a differents

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:27 pm
by DL13
Major_A wrote:No, he's referring to the RAM divider in your BIOS. Look in your manual on page 3-11, it's called DRAM Frequency. Lower than to a smaller number and then try to push your CPU faster.
Thanks Major I did get it up to 4.12 after I wrote the last post. It's ward how the BIOS is doing what it's doing.

Re: Is there a differents

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:09 am
by Gomeler
By using the 1:1 memory divider you should be able to do 533FSB with the memory in your sig. Make sure to manually set the memory divider otherwise the board may try to boot with a divider that is too high. I can't recall how many times I've tried to boot DDR2-2000 on my P45 motherboards with the 1:4 memory divider :lol:

Re: Is there a differents

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:49 pm
by DL13
Gomeler wrote:By using the 1:1 memory divider you should be able to do 533FSB with the memory in your sig. Make sure to manually set the memory divider otherwise the board may try to boot with a divider that is too high. I can't recall how many times I've tried to boot DDR2-2000 on my P45 motherboards with the 1:4 memory divider :lol:
That's weird I don't have a memory divider. I'm going to have a look again.

Re: Is there a differents

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:08 pm
by Major_A
The divider is also called the DRAM Frequency. The ratio described is how the RAM and CPU run.

Example: You have a Core2Quad with a 333Mhz FSB and DDR2 RAM that runs at 400Mhz. 1:1 means that as you raise your CPU FSB your RAM raises at the same ratio. Unless you have really good RAM then you almost always end up running a divider, hence why my RAM is at 475 MHz when it can run at 533 MHz. There is no way that I can push it 1:1 up to the 475 MHz (from 333) where my CPU's FSB is at.

Re: Is there a differents

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:30 pm
by DL13
Major_A wrote:The divider is also called the DRAM Frequency. The ratio described is how the RAM and CPU run.

Example: You have a Core2Quad with a 333Mhz FSB and DDR2 RAM that runs at 400Mhz. 1:1 means that as you raise your CPU FSB your RAM raises at the same ratio. Unless you have really good RAM then you almost always end up running a divider, hence why my RAM is at 475 MHz when it can run at 533 MHz. There is no way that I can push it 1:1 up to the 475 MHz (from 333) where my CPU's FSB is at.
Ok, my divider is my dram got it now. That is what's happening raise the cpu and the ram raises to. I think I now why I couldn't get my cpu at 4.0 before, about November last year, I think it was, I did a bios update before that I couldn't go above 3.9 with out the ram going to high and crashing so I never tried it until now sins I did this thread. Dos that make sens to you.
Asus don a lot of bios for my board two of which were remove from there list because they mad things worse. I can't what to get my Gigabyte board.