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Inexpensive, but quality PSU needed.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:12 pm
by vicaphit
I need something to power this new 9600GT, and I will have to check to see if the Dell PSU will suffice, but I may need some advice on a cost effective PSU that needs to power an AMD x2 4000, 2 gigs of value ram, 1 SATA HDD, 1 SATA DVD rom, and the 9600GT. Nate thinks the 305 Watt PSU will work, but I don't know if I have the molex connectors available to plug in the 6 pin power connector.

So, if I do need this new PSU, what could I buy that would be less than say, $60, but will not kill the entire computer.

Re: Inexpensive, but quality PSU needed.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:30 pm
by martini161
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817153052
i use that for just about all mainstream systems i build, its a tiny bit over your budget, unless the 60 bucks didnt include shipping. if it did

Re: Inexpensive, but quality PSU needed.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:54 pm
by vicaphit
The reviews scare me. The first review was titled "Problems" because there weren't enough Amps on the 12 volt rail. The second review was titled "Died after 2 months".

Anyone else using this PSU?

Re: Inexpensive, but quality PSU needed.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:56 pm
by martini161
out of the 330 reviews, only 16 people rated it 1 or 2 stars. 256 rated it 5. the front page reviews always show the extremes. and yes, the 12volts are only 15 amps each, but there are two of them!

Re: Inexpensive, but quality PSU needed.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:14 pm
by Alathald
PC Power & Cooling is a very good brand (Dan is a good mouthpiece for the brand :finga: ) and this one seems to be in your price range with the coupon code for 20% off (pcpc20) so might check it out:

PC Power & Cooling Silencer 410W - $48 (w 20% off code and free shipping)
PC Power & Cooling 500W - $64 (w 20% off code and free shipping)

Re: Inexpensive, but quality PSU needed.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:25 pm
by vicaphit
So you haven't had any problems with it yet?

I don't need a ton of power, just enough connectors to power the card properly.

Re: Inexpensive, but quality PSU needed.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:29 pm
by martini161
a couple of doa's but considering the amount of dead dell, gateway, emachines, acer etc PSUs ive replaced this with its to be expected

Re: Inexpensive, but quality PSU needed.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:30 pm
by Alathald
Actually, I just had it pointed out to me that the 410W PCP&C doesn't have PCIe connectors, though the 500W has x2 PCIe...I don't actually have a PCP&C but Dan (dmb2000uk) swears by them. They're up there in quality with the Corsairs though.

Re: Inexpensive, but quality PSU needed.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:37 pm
by vicaphit
Yeah, just looked at the silencer and it was lacking the connections.

The 500W looks pretty promising. Thanks for the suggestions! I will check this weekend what she needs.

Re: Inexpensive, but quality PSU needed.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:42 pm
by Apoptosis
you guys are all going way over kill...

Remember this slide from the GeForce 9500 GT review I did?

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On my test system with a QX9770, 4GB of memory a water cooler, hard drive and so on the entire system consumed just 186W at the wall.... The power supply that came with the PC should work! Do you need a 4-pin to 6-pin PCI Express adapter? I have a box of a like a hundred of them sitting here!

Re: Inexpensive, but quality PSU needed.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:17 pm
by DMB2000uk
Alathald wrote:Actually, I just had it pointed out to me that the 410W PCP&C doesn't have PCIe connectors, though the 500W has x2 PCIe...I don't actually have a PCP&C but Dan (dmb2000uk) swears by them. They're up there in quality with the Corsairs though.
Sonny-Jim, you have that backwards, PCP&C have been making solid PSUs when Corsair were still just a memory company. :finga:

Seriously though, do I sing their praises *that* much?

There are other good PSU brands out there. hehe

Dan

Re: Inexpensive, but quality PSU needed.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:14 pm
by sbinh
Buy.com has Corsair 750TX for sale only $104...
If you are new user, you'll get $5 off $100.
Also, $20 MIR from manufacture available.
Free 7-9 days shipping (but they shipped 2 days to me)

Total around $79

IMO, this is a good psu.

Re: Inexpensive, but quality PSU needed.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:47 pm
by vicaphit
Apoptosis wrote:you guys are all going way over kill...

Remember this slide from the GeForce 9500 GT review I did?



On my test system with a QX9770, 4GB of memory a water cooler, hard drive and so on the entire system consumed just 186W at the wall.... The power supply that came with the PC should work! Do you need a 4-pin to 6-pin PCI Express adapter? I have a box of a like a hundred of them sitting here!
you guys are all going way over kill...

Remember this slide from the GeForce 9500 GT review I did?



On my test system with a QX9770, 4GB of memory a water cooler, hard drive and so on the entire system consumed just 186W at the wall.... The power supply that came with the PC should work! Do you need a 4-pin to 6-pin PCI Express adapter? I have a box of a like a hundred of them sitting here!
As long as the PSU has 2 molex plugs free, I won't buy a PSU, though I don't think it does. The card did come with an adapter for molex to pci-e, and I have an extra from my 8800gt also. Thanks for offering though.

Re: Inexpensive, but quality PSU needed.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:34 pm
by vicaphit
Sorry for the double post, but I wanted to bump this also.

I have confirmed that I am one molex connector short for the pci-e plug. HOWEVER, the Dell motherboard's PCI-e locations prevents me from using a 2-slot video card. I didn't even remember this problem when Nate was shipping it over. Here is my delema: I have a 1 slot 8800gt in my gaming rig. I have already confirmed that the 8800 is faster than the 9600, so I could bite the bullet and put the 8800gt in the Dell, and the 9600gt in my gaming rig, and take a hit in the FPS area? Or do I find someone to trade off the 2-slot 9600gt for a 1-slot 9600gt?

Either way, I will still have to buy a PSU for the Dell for it to run a video card that requires a 6-pin power connection.

I have considered buying a new case, but with the location of the CPU and heatsink, it still wouldn't fit.

Any Ideas anyone?

I doubt that Palit would allow me to trade up for a 9800gt even if I payed the difference between the two cards.

Re: Inexpensive, but quality PSU needed.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:53 pm
by martini161
can you get us some pics of the case? and depending on what resolution you game at and how good of an overclocker the palit is, you may get the same FPS because of the 1gb of memory

Re: Inexpensive, but quality PSU needed.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:27 pm
by DMB2000uk
Here's an idea that's crazy:

Can you swap round the coolers to use on the other card?

Without having seen both cards I can't eyeball it, but they should at least use the same mounting for the core. It's just a question of it the other components have the same clearance.

Dan

Re: Inexpensive, but quality PSU needed.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:57 pm
by martini161
and if the contacts will be in the right place, plus the 9600 is 1gb and the 8800gt is only 512

Re: Inexpensive, but quality PSU needed.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:19 pm
by kenc51
Look out for FSP Group power supplies or Antec........they are cheap but quality

Re: Inexpensive, but quality PSU needed.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:34 pm
by vicaphit
The Palit card has this:
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I don't know if I can just let the DVI connector dangle if I switch the coolers...

Re: Inexpensive, but quality PSU needed.

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:48 pm
by vicaphit
I figured out what to do. I will take a bit of a gaming hit and use the 9600 in my gaming rig, and put the 8800 in hers. Thanks for all of the PSU suggestions, I will be buying one soon!