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External Water Box
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 6:36 pm
by Bio-Hazard
I got started on my external water box today. I'm making it out of a old AT tower I had laying around. I stripped it down to nothing and started cutting it down to the size I wanted. The box is going to have it's own modded PSU to power the pump and fans for the rad. I'm also going to be doing a bit of modding on the box, CCL, LED Fans and a window or 2. Here's a few pics of what I did so far. Total cost of project so far......nothing...... :twisted:
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After cutting:

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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 6:41 pm
by LVCapo
sweet, can't wait to see how this turns out!!!
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 6:46 pm
by Bio-Hazard
It's going to be slow going buying the water cooling parts as I've got to buy one at a time cause money is a little tight right now. I've got most of everything to complete the box though, My friends dad works for a metal works company and gave me 2 2x3 foot sheets for heavy guage modders mesh, so that will help out alot.........

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 7:11 pm
by LVCapo
what kind of stuff are you looking at using?
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 7:20 pm
by Bio-Hazard
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 7:24 pm
by Bio-Hazard
I'm not totally sure on everything right now. The pump will be 1 of the current 12v models, the rad is going to be a dual 120mm heater core. Everything will be 1/2 inch. As for a rez, I'm planning on making my own......

Water blocks TBD at completion of the box.........

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 7:47 pm
by Bio-Hazard
This is the type of heater core I'm looking at getting.
http://www.dangerden.com/mall/Radiators/heatercore.asp
I'm trying to find 1 that size at a auto parts store, but if I can't, I'll get it from Danger Den.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:39 pm
by LVCapo
From what I have been told, the way to go is an 86 Chevette heatercore, that is what all these new radiators are based on because of the pressure drop. You will need to fabricate your own fan shrouds though. I heard that the heatercore will run about $20 at Checkers, etc. Danger Den wants $42.99 for theirs.
I do highly recommend the Danger Den 12V, you turned me on to that, but after all my research for my W/C part piece, I found that it was actually the best 12V pump you can get, and better than 99% of the other pumpsout there.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:25 pm
by infinitevalence
two things one im pissed i leave for a few hrs to go see a movie and look what i miss
second try looking for a 77 bonevile heater core the make one that is all copper and one that is copper and brass from what i have read the copper ones are the best and will fit two 120mm fans almost perfectly.
the 77 is what i think i will start looking for soon ;) im thinking that koolance case needs an upgrade and some new threads.
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 5:32 am
by Apoptosis
My buddy was doing watercooling about a year ago and we couldn't find a heater core that we liked to we got an idea... :idea: In missouri we have NAPA auto parts stores and in O'Fallon, MO they have a bigger warehouse that holds many of the local stock parts. We went there told them we were working on a custom project and they let us go from box to box looking at every heater core. We found a massive dual core and took it.
Although it would take some time I think it would be neat to again go to an autoparts store and do a search the "perfect" core for you.
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 8:01 am
by Bio-Hazard
The heater core is going to fit along the entire right side of the case under the PSU rez area. Max size can be 7x14 inches. The one from Danger Den is 6 1/8x11, which is about the closest I've found so far.
I think it would be fun to run through a auto parts warehouse to find a great core........could save some money in the long run to I think......

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 12:38 pm
by infinitevalence
Just keep in mind that if your using a copper water block your going to need either an anodized aluminum heater core or a copper one. There are aditives that will keep corosion down but they will also reduce the preformance of the overall system. Thats why alot of people use the 77 bonivile because its all copper.
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 11:43 pm
by Bio-Hazard
I always use a little Propylene Glycol in my cooling systems, low tox, bio-degradeable and keeps funny things from growing. It also keeps the water PH pretty much neutral. You should always use a little something in the water, just to be on the safe side............ :D
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 1:49 am
by infinitevalence
No dobut, but you want as little as you need thats why if your using copper blocks then you should stay with copper rad's. (god im itching to start a new project after looking at your pics)
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:39 pm
by Bio-Hazard
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:48 pm
by infinitevalence
This is looking good. I cannot wait to see the finished product.
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 5:48 pm
by Bio-Hazard
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 9:38 pm
by BoxsterS258
Nice.
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:27 pm
by Bio-Hazard
I checked online and our local Auto Zone has the Pontiac Bonniville heater cores in stock for $18.00. I'm going to have to run by there tomorrow and check them out. If they're what I'm looking for I'll pick one up. But from the specs I cross checked on it'll be just right. I think I'll check on DC water pumps while I'm there also....... :D
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:49 pm
by Bio-Hazard
Just a quick update, I picked up the heater core at Auto Zone today $19.26 with tax). I got the big one that fits 2 120mm fans on it, the one for the Pontiac Bonniville. I cut the tubes short tonight and I'll look for the right fittings tomorrow after work. This heater core is huge, it takes up the whole right side of the case I'm building. My wife gave me the OK to order the Danger Den 12v D4 pump, early birthday present.......I'll be ordering that tomorrow I guess..........
