Upgrading to Geforce 8300GS

Oshe Rono · Post by **Oshe Rono** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:58 pm

Before I hear the usual yes I know there are better cards out there, but I am updating from a Radeon 9200 card. I do not consider myself a hard core gamer and anyways I tend to play games but graphics are not THAT important to me. I would like to upgrade the card but I am NOT shelling out more than 100 euros for one. Thing is, I will notice a considerable graphics upgrade right? And if I have a 8300GS is paying about 78 euros for a 8500 GT 512 MB card give a noticeable performance increase? or just make for eye candy increase? And how much of an eye candy increase? I like candy heh. Should I keep vista as my OS since it might not be compatible with older games?

Post by **Apoptosis** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:33 pm

What games do you play? I'm not sure moving from a Radeon 9200 to a GeForce 8300GS is going to give you a considerable graphics update that you will notice.

martini161 · Post by **martini161** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:03 pm

i agree. the only thing youll be gaining with an 8300gs over a radeon 9200 is dx 10

Oshe Rono · Post by **Oshe Rono** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:58 am

Even though my Radeon 9200 is at least 4 years old? As for games, well right now I play FF XI, which is not that heavy on the graphics department, but I would like to play Jade Empire and have it look decent. Also I was hoping to be able to play FarCry, Medal of Honor, and Dynasty Warriors 4 without using the minimum graphics settings and lowest resolution, which I don't mind that much, but I'd like a stable framerate. So actually there is no difference betwen this and the radeon 9250 I see in stores? Any budget level card recommedations then? I would like to keep my price to around 100 ish.

Oshe Rono · Post by **Oshe Rono** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:01 am

Oh and I am open to suggestions on the ATI front as well by the way.

martini161 · Post by **martini161** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:32 am

does your mother board have agp or pcie?

martini161 · Post by **martini161** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:42 am

here are some of my suggestions (im asuming that 100 euros = about 150 usd)
If you have PciE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814102712 (this would be my first choice)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814130084
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814130290
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814131055
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814161098
If you have AGP
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814150174

Oshe Rono · Post by **Oshe Rono** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:58 pm

Well I am basically upgrading the whole system. So the new machine, a Packard Bell, has a PCI-E slot, Athlon X2 4400 2 gig RAM, not bad at all (love the special student prices they have in Europe). The only downside is that I get what seems to me a basic level card. Can anyone give the equivalent of the 8300GS when compared to the previous Geforce cards? That would help me a lot.

hercules71185 · Post by **hercules71185** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:08 pm

do not waste your money on an 8300!!! WOW!!. Simply put its addicting to upgrade and upgrade and upgrade. skip the first 2 steps and just do it once.
Get a card where you will have power even if not max to play games and new ones for a long time. If a new game comes out. Just say like jade of empire 2 or something. And requires at least a 7600 6800 or 8500. then you are stuck in order to play it you gotta get a new card. Save yourself the hassle of wasting the 50 dollars and 10 dollar shipping it will cost and spend 100 and get a cheapo 8600gt or something. The guy who recommended the 150 range. Good idea. But, remember what just came out for 180. scrounge up that 30 dollars if it means eating raman noodles for a week and get the 3850 if you were spending that much. But, for 100 dollars you can get a nice card shipped.
If you insist on not wanting or desiring to spend much money. I'm sure for the 8300gs you will pay at least 60 right?
What about 20 dollars more and getting a radeon 2600pro for 80. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi ... xpress+x16
to compare the 2600pro to an older card. I'd say its about equal to a 6800? maybe a lil more like close to the 6800ultra. For the price and what you can still play today its worth it. Don't waste the time it takes to order the 8300 series tho.

dgood · Post by **dgood** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:35 am

ati hd 3850 is my reccomendation. http://www.clubit.com/product_detail.cf ... o=A9654045. 164 +7 shipping. if you need lower than that. i'd reccodmend going back a seriers to liek a 7600gs or something. or an x1650 card. from ati. that should be doable in a below 150 dollar us range.

hercules71185 · Post by **hercules71185** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:06 am

to martini keep that currency conversion on there for more than a week and it'll be wrong. Soon 100 euro will be worth 10000 dollars. haha. Man do I hate my countries leader...

martini161 · Post by **martini161** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:18 pm

who bush? well i dont love him either but its not so much our econmey is doing bad its more that europes economey is doing really good

Oshe Rono · Post by **Oshe Rono** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:03 pm

Well you see the reason I am asking is that the graphics card is what comes with the system, at no extra cost to me. Since I am getting the system very cheap, even though its not a bad machine, I seem to be kinda screwed on the graphics department. So adding a graphics card would be a good thing if I can get a 8600GT 256 or even 512 mb which I think I can,or even a 8600 GTS. If not a 8500 GT 512 mb. An ATI 2900 or above are overpriced here in France, so I won't even try buying one. But how about a ATI Radeon HD2600XT 256 Mo DDR3? Are those good? Keep in mind that I don't care about playing in extra high resolution, I mean 800 x 600 or 1024 x 768 will do for me. I mean more than that I don't think I would care for .

Oshe Rono · Post by **Oshe Rono** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:04 pm

Forgot one card - Radeon X1950 GT 512 Mo DDR3, how about that one?

Post by **DMB2000uk** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:07 pm

Go for the 8600GT 256, or GTS 256 if you can find it for the right price.

The added memory (on the 512MB cards) wont give you any benefit at those resolutions, and the faster card 256MB card (aka GTS) will be better than the 512 8600GT or 512 2600XT.

The x1950GT will be around the same performance as the 8600GTS, but the 8600GTS has the advantages of being DX10 capable and has better on board (Hi/Lo Def) video decoding to help take the workload off of your CPU.

Dan

hercules71185 · Post by **hercules71185** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:13 pm

radeon 1950 is good. about the 8600gt. I have the 256 and a friend has the 512.. My computer is slightly faster than his my cpu is at 2.85 and his at 2.7. Both the same amd cpu. So it shows the vram didn't make a difference even at our 1650 x 1050 resolutions. If you don't mind me asking how much are you paying for the set up either write it on here or pm. I built an entire system case up for under 400 with 3gb ddr2 case powersupply, video card, cpu, mobo, hard drive and fans. So cheap is relative. I've seen to many people get a GREAT deal of 800 bucks that is made for under 300. as for the 1950 if you mean the xt not gt. I have no experience with that one. That my friend. Is a very decent card. No its not dx10. But, then again if you get a 8600gts or lower you can't utilize the dx10 anyways. Its not powerful enough. 8800gts is the minimum for you to worry about dx10. I have the 8600gt and don't even bother with dx10 since the graphics are not to noticeable vs the effects you have to lower to play it there.

hercules71185 · Post by **hercules71185** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:14 pm

haha dude you posted the same time I did and a lot of simular topics. Guess that means its true about the 256 vs 512 in this particular card. I was about 95% sure it made VERY VERY little if not no difference.

Post by **DMB2000uk** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:24 pm

hercules71185 wrote:haha dude you posted the same time I did and a lot of simular topics. Guess that means its true about the 256 vs 512 in this particular card. I was about 95% sure it made VERY VERY little if not no difference.

I was reading your first post and thinking, but I just said half of that, then read your second one and smiled

When someone backs up what you are saying like we just did it goes to show how true the advice is. ^_^

Dan

Oshe Rono · Post by **Oshe Rono** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:41 pm

Sigh I feel so outdated. I'll tell you one thing though, computer parts are a lot cheaper in the Americas, France gets screwed badly pricewise.

hercules71185 · Post by **hercules71185** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:12 pm

yea america has really cheap parts. I think some is to do with conversions and how it is right now. Like our prices never went up. On most books since the canadian dollar was worth less than ours they have 2 prices usd and can. Usually its like $17 or 20Can but, now their dollar is worth more. But, its still the same amount for them. That is part of the reason I'm sure. The rest I dunno why its so much cheaper

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