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Dryice cooled 8800GTX SLI, 22799pt 3dmark 06
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:43 am
by HONkUS
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:37 pm
by bubba

I'm not sure how to feel about that.
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:14 pm
by dgood
So now that the new DX10 cards are finally rolling out with the unified architecture I have a few questions about DX10 and where it is all going. DX10 only works on Vista right? and Dx9 will not? and you'll need a mod to run dx9 in vista? can you run dx9 games on a dx10 card? can you install dx9 games on vista? etc. can someone give me a run down? and why has ATI not released a better dx10 card yet? since they have a unified out already for xbox360.
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:53 pm
by kenc51
DX10 will only be for Vista.
Vista will run DX9 games fine.......DX10 is backward compatible with DX9,8 or 7
XP will not run games with DX10 effects but will play the DX10 games using DX9 effects..
With a DX10 card, you can run DX9 games......but with a DX9 card, you can play a DX10 game but only with DX9 effects.....
ATI don't have their DX10 card yet, its roumored they have probs making the silicon with TSMC. They are due to release their new card in Jan and it sounds like it will be even faster than the 8800GTX

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:17 pm
by dgood
http://news.softpedia.com/news/DirectX- ... 7762.shtml
what is it that they mean by this then? lol just want to understand cuz i'm waiting for my next build till after i figure out what goes down with all this crap. I really don't like how microsoft is in control of gfx card makers how games can be played.
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:26 pm
by HONkUS
Well back in the day 3dfx had Glide as their API.
Also anyone know what happened to OpenGL?
DX10 and backwards compatability is going to be like every DX generation before it. Heck even HL2 has DX7 support. There arent going to be any DX10 ONLY games for a long time, until atleast DX11 is out lol. DX10 8800's probably make up less then 5 percent of the total GPU's out there and even that is a generous estimate. A vast majority are going to be DX9 with few DX8 and DX7 cards still lingering. It would be stupid to make a game that ONLY ran on DX10 because even if everyone with a DX10 card bought it that would still only be 5 percent of your possible target audience. Developers and MS know this very well.
Games even in Vista will still have DX9 backwards compatability for quite sometime, dont worry.
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:30 pm
by dgood
another site I was browsing on this topic. Sorry to keep bringing stuff up i'm done after this one though.
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35140
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:51 pm
by dicecca112
don't listen to the inquirer there always wrong. But in this one case they are right. For now there is no support for DX10 in Windows XP. That might change in the future.
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:59 pm
by kenc51
dicecca112 wrote:don't listen to the inquirer there always wrong. But in this one case they are right. For now there is no support for DX10 in Windows XP. That might change in the future.
:off topic:
The Inquirer Rules!!
I visit there every day.......actually most of what they say is true. They are usually only wrong about release dates or specifics on cpus etc. months before release. You can learn alot from reading their stuff IMO.
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:21 pm
by dicecca112
sure, but as overall sources, I trust anandtech and xbit before i trust inquirer.
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:24 am
by Illuminati
my guess is that Windows XP SP3 will include DX10 support... but that is just a guess. Just seems like with the timing of Microsoft pushing back the SP3 release data by so much, they are really hoping people will buy Vista in order to not have to wait so long to get DX10... IMO.