DDR3-based system to emerge in late 2006

[Apoptosis]

In line with debuting the 1067Mbps DDR3, the Germany-based memory maker Infineon projects DDR3-based system to emerge in late 2006. The new DDR3 comes with a lower voltage at 1.5V and dual Mbps rates (800 and 1067 Mbps respectively). Infineon also aims to increase the Mbps rate to 1600 in the future.

The new DDR 3 memory module operates at 1.5V, down from DDR 2's 1.8V and DDR 1's 2.5V. Less power consumption from memory modules is good as the CPU consumption keeps going up.

Now that DDR3 memory is coming closer we are seeing that it will start at 800Mhz and 1066Mhz when first released. A 1600Mhz part is currently being worked on right now by both Samsun and Infineon, which is what we are interested in!

[Ozy666]

Any speculation as to when AMD is going to include DDR3 support in their onchip memory controller?

Ozy

[Apoptosis]

After DDR2 gets supported ;)

[Sovereign]

Wow, that type of memory is going to be in PC Gamer's reviews of $6000 systems I can't afford....

[shwA]

Wow, that type of memory is going to be in PC Gamer's reviews of $6000 systems I can't afford....

Hehe, who knows...start saving now and you just might be able to say you can "almost" afford it.

[gvblake22]

After DDR2 gets supported ;)

LOL!
good call

AMD seems to be on the trail end as far as adopting new standards (PCI-Express with the exception of SLI, DDR2...). So I would say it will be a little later until we see (if we see it at all) on an AMD platform).

What about that XDR2 or whatever it's called. Do you guys think that will actually get adopted anywhere and take off?

[Zelig]

What about that XDR2 or whatever it's called. Do you guys think that will actually get adopted anywhere and take off?

Maybe in consoles and other devices, but I don't think it will ever take off with PCs. Rambus had their chance already.

[whipme]

yeah, we most likely to see XDR2 in the PS4 or some other future console.
doubt intel will take the bait again. not that RDRAM was all that bad though,
it was a top performer, the problem was the cost.

It was rumored that AMD will be using DDR2 in their socket M2 systems,
any updates on that yet?

[gvblake22]

It was rumored that AMD will be using DDR2 in their socket M2 systems,
any updates on that yet?

Yes, that is true. Socket M2 will likely be DDR2 667
http://www.c627627.com/AMD/Athlon64/

[whipme]

I't good to see AMD getting on the DDR2 truck, but DDR2 667 is going to
be very old news by that time, we will most likely be seeing low latency
800mhz and 1ghz parts by then. It hasn't taken very long to get 667's down
to cas3, so maybe cas2 is possible by then.

[Apoptosis]

AMD was shipped DDR2 ECC modules from memory companies the last week of June 2005. They have working DDR2 platforms up and running, so it won't be too far off. DDR2 675MHz is going to be around for some time as it is the new DDR2 standard like DDR400 was for last generation products.

[gvblake22]

AMD was shipped DDR2 ECC modules from memory companies the last week of June 2005. They have working DDR2 platforms up and running, so it won't be too far off. DDR2 675MHz is going to be around for some time as it is the new DDR2 standard like DDR400 was for last generation products.

DDR2 ECC?
Are ECC DDR2 modules similarly priced as regular non-ECC DDR2? Or is ECC on DDR2 prettymuch the commonplace standard?
<--Still don't know a lot about DDR2 yet

[Illuminati]

ECC is usually more expensive and typically reserved for servers. ECC => Error Correction. If I remember correctly, Intel's first implementation of DDR2 also used ECC modules.... although I think only the reviewers saw them... Nate can verify this.

I would expect the final revision of the AMD DDR2 memory controller will not require ECC modules.

[Apoptosis]

Justin, you are thinking of the original AMD A64 FX processors.. They were 940 pins and needed DDR-400 ECC memory to run. AMD has only ordered in 1GB and 2GB kits of DDR2 5400 memory at the current time.

[gvblake22]

ECC is usually more expensive and typically reserved for servers. ECC => Error Correction. If I remember correctly, Intel's first implementation of DDR2 also used ECC modules.... although I think only the reviewers saw them... Nate can verify this.

I would expect the final revision of the AMD DDR2 memory controller will not require ECC modules.

Yeah, that's what I figured. I was just curious as to whether or not AMD plans to require ECC on socket M2 as Apop seemed to hint at earlier?

[Apoptosis]

Company X:

"I know AMD requested it from our engineers a few weeks ago. It's not a standard product that we sell, so we had to do a special build for them."

Company Y:

"We sent AMD numerous 667MHz DDR2 ECC memory kits 1 month ago"

No one sent them out anything above 800MHz and they only thing the requested was ECC modules from nearly any memory vendor you can name.

[infinitevalence]

That just means that they are starting on the memory controler for Opteron first thats all.

[Apoptosis]

AMD has put servers first for years and is going to contiune that marketing/sales strategy. I must say that it seems to be paying off because their market share in the server sector is increasing each quarter and they are hoping it will eventually increase desktop sales when those IT people need to renew their desktop contracts with major ODM's in upcoming years.

[DanielDev]

if u ask me they should skip the whole DDR2 thing and stay with DDR untill ddr3 comes up.
DDR2 has never really proved to be better than DDR, so why go with DDR2 when DDR3 is nearly available?

[infinitevalence]

thats not going to happen, they have put to much $$ into ddr2 dev sad though because i would tend to agree with you.