kingston valueram question

[noman]

hi,

this is my first post here..
here is the question.

i recently bought two sticks of kingston valueram pc3200 3-3-3

the thing is..on the sticker there is written"genuine kingston"..

kingston is also written on all the indvidual IC's on the ram...

there is no mention of hynix,winbond etc etc..

one guy told me that kingston rams with kingston IC does not overclock as well as hynix,or winbond chip...

do u know if this is true? should i exchange this ram with one which has hynix or winbond chips?

[noman]

MODEL# KVR400X64C3A/256


this is written on each IC

"
Kingston

D3208DL3T-5A 0433PT03 "

[Immortal]

Kingston are fine manufacturers of RAM, having had a few kingston IC's on my RAM i know they overclock ok, but not the best.

[LVCapo]

which would explain why it is value ram. You have to understand that they sell it cheaper for a reason, probably because it won't O/C at all

[drexor69]

Kingston doesn't have a Fab, hence they don't make RAM's. They might buy bare die and have it packaged with their name on the IC, or they might have purchased blank TSOP's and had their logo burned in, but they didn't make the silicon inside...

[noman]

ok..thanx for replies

but what i was asking was.....

how do kingston IC compare to others..that is.. hynix or winbond....i know that its valueram and will not oc that much but there can be a comparison among these different chips on kingston rams....right?

immortal...how far could it go.like would it reach 220 mhz or something?

and finally about Kingston IC's.... i also think that they didn't make the IC
themselves....but could someone identify the company from this number
D3208DL3T-5A

i have a theory myself.... the format of this number looks similar to the
winbond chip number....i don't know for sure.. could someone help me?

[Immortal]

with my kingston DDR400, i reached 225 but with the only 1 pair out of the 4 i had, and with around 2.8-2.9v.
The others generally gave up anywhere from 210-218Mhz.

[noman]

ok..

now here is another question...have anyone of you used hynix or winbond chips?
how has been the experience with those?

[Apoptosis]

Winbond, Hynix, Samsung, Mosel Vitelic, Infineon, Micron...

I've used them all and not one stands out as being the best or worst. Right now all the rage is the new Samsung TCCD Revision "F" IC's.

[noman]

ok.....

i got kingston chips on my valureram.....would u suggest that i try to exchange them with hynix or winbond chips?
bcoz a friend of mine has hit 225mhz on his hynix chips...another friend also said that....
is it possible that i would get bad ones in hynix? if they are not d43's?

[Apoptosis]

Have you tried overclocking them yet? I have seen plenty of value memory hit 225FSB (DDR450) before with "re-marked IC's" so I wouldn't worry. Give it shot before you go to return it! Besides that is the joy of being an enthusiast! Pushing the parts beyond their rates specifications!

[noman]

ok...

the thing is... the shopkeeper told me that he would exchange only if it is not opened or used....i haven't used it yet .....i thinking abt it..it seems that hynix chips do a better job oc'ing
one more thing....how do the company know that i overclocked a ram?like how come warranty is void when they can't see anything different?
what is the max.safe vdimm for a ram with 2.6v default?

[Apoptosis]

I see what you are saying now.

If you want to play on the safe side get some Samsung TCCD revision "f" IC's. They are used on many PC-3200 modules and can go from DDR400 to DDR564 with ease.

A review showing six kits of memory that use this IC can be found at the url: http://www.legitreviews.com/reviews/memorypcb/

If you can get any of those kits you know you will have some of the best overclocking memory on the market right now.

I run all my memory at 2.8Volts. Anything higher runs the risk of the modules becoming too hot, plus many IC's are voltage regulated so more voltage doesn't have a big impact.