Deserting INTEL for AMD :) **56k warning**

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:24 pm

whoa, 2 x 2GB???? jeez, that's a lot of frickin RAM, lol. The reason I was asking about the chips differences is because I thought about Platinum (PC-4800), but I also heard that the voltage-hungry Gold VX kicks major arse, what do you think personally? If Gold VX is worth it, I might change my mind and go with it, I want tight timings at a hellacious FSB clock, at 1T.

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:38 pm

300MHz with TCCD is about the same as ~260Mhz with UTT @ 2,2,2,5
good UTT sticks ~270 @ 2,2,2,5 then can't be beat!
The prob with pumping upto 3.8v into ram is it gets REAL hot!!
Anandtech done a review, you might want to check out!

Also Mushkin have some nice RedLine pc4000 stuff aswell as OCZ!

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:57 pm

ehh, I don't know so much about Redline, saw a couple of reviews on that and it didn't put up the numbers I thought it would. I'll still read up a little more just to make sure, but I think I want to stick with OCZ, they just kick that much arse to me, good products.

gvblake22 · Post by **gvblake22** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:13 pm

I have some OCZ Platinum PC-4800 and I have found that RAM speed really doesn't do much for 3D performance, at least in 3DMark2005:
300mhz (8x300) with 2.5-4-4-10 and 2T:

I did the same run with 240mhz (10x240) with 2.5-3-3-7 and 1T and got 3532 3D2k5 marks...
The results will probably be different for something like aquamark or PCMark or Sandra, but that's what I have found so far with 3DMark2005. I'm still working on completing more benchmarking to see what HTT and RAM speeds yield what performance in different applications/benchmarks.

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:56 am

Nice one!
Hey gvblake! - Is that your new DFI board? I tought you couldn't go higher than ~240?

I'll post a comparrison between ~235 @ 2,2,2,5 and ~280 @ 2.5,3,3,6 later if i get a chance - I'm only using an x300 but still

I think 300Mhz is better for gaming, Try bench UT2004, you should see ~15fps more
From what I have read, ~240 -> ~250 @ 2,2,2,5 is about the same as 300 @ looser timings
I want t see what say about 230 @ 2,2,2,5 is equal to....

As I said, Nice one!
and If I have time I'll add more....

Ps. try 2.5,4,3,10 - If your sticks use good TCCD you might even get 2.5,3,3,* => If TCC5 then you should still get 2.5,4,3,* -> also if it looks like TCC5 then it might like ~3v

gvblake22 · Post by **gvblake22** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:04 am

Thanks. I'm pretty sure they are TCC5 chips under the heatspreaders. I didn't have time to check a lot of other timings, I just wanted to see if they could run spec, but I did find that they won't do 1T at 300mhz with those timings, lol. I'm gonna do some more testing maybe tonight and see how high I can get and how tight I can get the timings

Yeah, I did have to make a few changes to get to these speeds.

I'm looking forward to the 2-2-2-X comparisons also!

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:18 am

gvblake22 wrote:Thanks. I'm pretty sure they are TCC5 chips under the heatspreaders. I didn't have time to check a lot of other timings, I just wanted to see if they could run spec, but I did find that they won't do 1T at 300mhz with those timings, lol. I'm gonna do some more testing maybe tonight and see how high I can get and how tight I can get the timings
Yeah, I did have to make a few changes to get to these speeds.

I'm looking forward to the 2-2-2-X comparisons also!

Is it with a DFI board? - Increasing your tRC will make things more stable - It will lower performance but should allow you to reach the magic 300 with 1T.... (a higher tRC but with 1T is better than low tRC and 2T!)

DFI's Bios guide

gvblake22 · Post by **gvblake22** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:27 am

kenc51 wrote:
gvblake22 wrote:Thanks. I'm pretty sure they are TCC5 chips under the heatspreaders. I didn't have time to check a lot of other timings, I just wanted to see if they could run spec, but I did find that they won't do 1T at 300mhz with those timings, lol. I'm gonna do some more testing maybe tonight and see how high I can get and how tight I can get the timings
Yeah, I did have to make a few changes to get to these speeds.

I'm looking forward to the 2-2-2-X comparisons also!
Is it with a DFI board? - Increasing your tRC will make things more stable - It will lower performance but should allow you to reach the magic 300 with 1T.... (a higher tRC but with 1T is better than low tRC and 2T!)

DFI's Bios guide

Yeah, I wanted the best overclocking potential of the DFI boards but at a good pricepoint, and after reading LR's review on the Infinity series and coming across a great deal on a DFI NF4 SLI Infinity, I just couldn't say no.
I'll give the tRC trick a try, thanks man!

But your DFI BIOS guide you linked me to goes to a post about HDD's...
Good information, but still kindof unrelated, lol

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:48 am

gvblake22 wrote:
kenc51 wrote:
gvblake22 wrote:Thanks. I'm pretty sure they are TCC5 chips under the heatspreaders. I didn't have time to check a lot of other timings, I just wanted to see if they could run spec, but I did find that they won't do 1T at 300mhz with those timings, lol. I'm gonna do some more testing maybe tonight and see how high I can get and how tight I can get the timings
Yeah, I did have to make a few changes to get to these speeds.

I'm looking forward to the 2-2-2-X comparisons also!
Is it with a DFI board? - Increasing your tRC will make things more stable - It will lower performance but should allow you to reach the magic 300 with 1T.... (a higher tRC but with 1T is better than low tRC and 2T!)

DFI's Bios guide
Yeah, I wanted the best overclocking potential of the DFI boards but at a good pricepoint, and after reading LR's review on the Infinity series and coming across a great deal on a DFI NF4 SLI Infinity, I just couldn't say no.
I'll give the tRC trick a try, thanks man!

But your DFI BIOS guide you linked me to goes to a post about HDD's...
Good information, but still kindof unrelated, lol

Scroll down man

all you need is near the end of the page!

gvblake22 · Post by **gvblake22** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:17 am

OH WOW! lol, I'm an idiot

That's quite the wealth of information there!!! Thanks man!!!

The ammount of community support for these DFI boards is truly amazing, I'm glad I made the switch.

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:43 am

gvblake22 wrote:OH WOW! lol, I'm an idiot
That's quite the wealth of information there!!! Thanks man!!!
The ammount of community support for these DFI boards is truly amazing, I'm glad I made the switch.

Me too...
I haven't got started yet with half of the bios options

This is a better thread
And DFI's bio's factory thread here
A nice ADM64 OC guide here

Post by **FZ1** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:37 am

I'm doing very well the the DFI board as well (see AMD processor topic). It only really took me a few days to dial up my 3500+ winny (2.2ghz) to 2.5ghz. These boards are great, I couldn;t get anywhere near that with my ABIT. I got a TON of useful info from the DFI-street boards.

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:33 am

I'm planning on one hell of an OC myself....with the DFI Ultra Infinity, X2 3800+, and Gold VX PC-4000 (not sure if I'm going dual-channel or not just yet, probably will), over eventually a Koolance Exos2, I plan on going from the stock 2.0 to 2.8.....I just hope the board can handle it, but that's my goal. DFI boards dial in good, don't they

Post by **FZ1** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:41 pm

I'd skip the infinity and go for the Ultra board...@$128 bucks it still a reasonable price and it has a few more features than the infinity. I'll have to look at the documentation that came with my board to tell you what the difference is (it had a good comparo).

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:12 pm

Well Joe, it's a little late for that now, lol. I already have the Ultra Infinity in my possession, lol, have had it for around a month now, I am just slowing accumulating some money to try and buy the other components. Also entering in related contests here so I can hopefully win something I've been looking for, lol. Once the mortgage, which is 90 days behind, is caught up, I will be able to save more (hopefully, and I'm also trying to find ways to curb my spending, which can be impulsive sometimes

). My next venture is to get the X2 3800+ (I want dual-core, and I won't back off it unless I absolutely need a computer) and a good cooling solution (still torn between Vapochill Micro and the SI-120). Wages aren't good at all down here in SC, so it'll be slow, but well worth it!

Post by **FZ1** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:20 pm

That settles that! What components are you lacking?

gvblake22 · Post by **gvblake22** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:20 pm

Vstrom wrote:I'd skip the infinity and go for the Ultra board...@$128 bucks it still a reasonable price and it has a few more features than the infinity. I'll have to look at the documentation that came with my board to tell you what the difference is (it had a good comparo).

The only reason I would get the LanParty over the Infinity would be for the pretty colored slots and the nicer onboard sound. Other than that, they are very similar, and it's easy to buy a PCI sound card for $30 or less

<--Turtle Beach Santa Cruze here (but that's left over from my Athlon XP build)

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:30 pm

I feel ya there...actually, I won't be using the onboard sound myself, because also a part of my build (and I know I shouldn't use this because of recent complaints about it working with AMD products) will be the Audigy2 ZS Platinum. Hopefully by the time I'm able to get it, there will be a patch for the problems it has with AMD stuff. But, by then there will probably be something better out, lol, considering things

kenc51 · Post by **kenc51** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:03 pm

I have my X2 now H2O cooled

Dual 120mm Rad, only 1 fan running for now (fan controller is in other case)
innovatek xxflow block
Danger Den DDC-12V pump

Running @ 2.7GHz 1.55v 11x245MHz
So far 2x prime95 is going well for the last hr or so ;)
Temps are 40c

I'm hoping someone can help!
What's the max vcore i should use? I've read 1.55v, 1.6, and 1.7....So which?
I still have to see how high it will go @ 1.55v but if i can add more the all the better....

Thanks
Ken

Don't worry, I'll post screenshots, 3dmark etc. once I find the max!

killswitch83 · Post by **killswitch83** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:37 pm

personally, since I'm a wuss and like to stay on the safe side, lol, I think no more than 10% of stock voltage, which would put you at 1.7v. I've also heard that you should keep your max temp at or under 65C.....really it's which ever you feel comfortable with. I'm pretty sure someone else will chime in with something different, but this is what I've been hearing a lot of. How's those Toledo's treating you btw?

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