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Hey I bought one off Ebay follow through with me and help me out with overclocking please.
Should be here tomorrow.

List your proc and RAM and we can give more specialized advice, as opposed to general tips.

and your PSU would ge good to. Also what your cooling is

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I'm on air currently might move up to water if I get the balls. or the cash...Whatever one comes 1st.

Its an Enermax Noisetaker 420W.
Cooling is some cheap...little...thing...dunno. Get decent temps.
Case 36 C (Sitting on a cardboard box no fans) and 51 C diode right now.

The NF7-S will do you good if setup correctly. I had mine up to 2.6 I think before I sold it last month. List your complete specs as soo as you get it all set up.

My NF7-S now lives in my living room and functions as my DVR and it folds when not being used as a TV.

Got it up finally. Need a better heatsink. Maybe a mobile proc.

NF7-S V2
Mushkin EL DDR 400 2x512mb
BFG 6800 GT OC
120GB WD SATA
40GB IDE
SB Audigy 2 ZS Plat
420 Enermax Noisetaker
AMD XP 2500+ @ 2.46 (Alpha PAL 80450 HS)

I think...new heatsink and crap will help. Hits 70 in HL2.
In BIOS i have volt set at 1.95 and in windows it says its at 1.56

Got FSB up to 440 stable just over heating dammit.

The shortest route to an nf7-s' heart is through a soldering iron

im scared.

70 is a bit too hot, you might want to kick your clocks back untill you get some better cooling. Something with heat pipes if your gonna stick with air. It would help to get a better cooler on the north bridge also. The stock ones don't last and arn't up to OCing.
As far as using software for reading temps to get a proper idea of what your voltages are you need a digital multi meter. You can use the software as a guide to check voltage drop under load but to be sure you need a DMM.

Ohh really? Okay I will get a couple meters. Voltimeter and a nice Temp-o-meter.
Good advice. I am not on stock im on AlphaPal 8540? Something like that. It did a better job than my Thermal Take Silent Tower.

Right now im on 64 bit as my main OC so we will see updates along the line.

SlipSand,
their is another wayother than modifying your mobo. i used to have the NF7-S but once i got my hot little hands on my DFI NF2 UI i took the NF7-S and built a computer with it for my parents.

but, as i was saying, there are several modified bios out there that allow you to turn off Command Per Clock (1T/2T option) and you'll be able to get up to around a 240 (DDR480) FSB. there's also some other memory setting available like the tRC and tRFC. usually these are set to 13-15 respectively. raising the tRFC gave me at least another 10mhz FSB speed. also there are cpu tables that can be modified. if you're running a cpu that is a 133 or 166 FSB core, then there are pin mods (tiny pieces of wire you place in the socket so it connects the cpu pins when the cpu is inserted). of these pin mods there is one inparticular that everyone does, it's the one to set your cpu as a 200mhz FSB core. this allows the bios to use the better 200mhz cpu tables and will allow you to run stable at an even higher FSB.

about mobiles, you'll definitely will want to do the 200mhz FSB pin mod AND the 1.775vcore pin mod. the mobile cpu's post with their defualt vcores of 1.45~1.55 volts. this will cause your overclock in windows to not boot up once you reboot. so you'll need to do both pin mods in this case.

also, do not run memory dividers on your mobo. the memory you have, altho i didn't do any research on it, if it's not BH5, CH5, CH6, or UTT BH5 "clones" then you'll prolly only be running timings like 2-3-2-6 or something. this is where the modded bios comes in handy. changing the CPC to 2T you'll prolly be able to run 2-2-2-5 up to around a decent bus speed; altho you'll never get DDR500 on that mobo i'm afraid.

here's the link to an Interactive Pin modding guide.....
http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/pi ... inmod.html

TGM

Not meaning to call you a necromancer. But you are one.

The Mushkin Black LVL II is BH5

Lowering any tRC timings will make the memory MUCH slower. Also putting it at 2T will make it significantly slower. Then I do know what split timings are. I am not noobish enough to just go and slow down everything and try to make more Mhz. You want everything tight as hell so its running like a champ not a loose sloppy rocket about to explode if the wind hits it wrong.

Trust me 480 and 2-2-2-11 is best for NF2 chips. Also being able to keep it 1T will make it better than any 2.5-3-6-7 2T 500 set.

I know of pinmods they have been around a long time. They arent what I am looking for because they will not get any significant increase out of the non mobile that is already above 200. I do have modded BIOSes on it also.

Not meaning to call you a necromancer. But you are one.

The Mushkin Black LVL II is BH5

Lowering any tRC timings will make the memory MUCH slower. Also putting it at 2T will make it significantly slower. Then I do know what split timings are. I am not noobish enough to just go and slow down everything and try to make more Mhz. You want everything tight as hell so its running like a champ not a loose sloppy rocket about to explode if the wind hits it wrong.

Trust me 480 and 2-2-2-11 is best for NF2 chips. Also being able to keep it 1T will make it better than any 2.5-3-6-7 2T 500 set.

I know of pinmods they have been around a long time. They arent what I am looking for because they will not get any significant increase out of the non mobile that is already above 200. I do have modded BIOSes on it also.

hmmmm Necromancer - The practice of supposedly communicating with the spirits of the dead in order to predict the future. had to look that one up. also, i'm a bit confused as to why you used that word. also, what are "split timings" there is no term like that. anyways....

you said your FSB is topped out at 440 not 480 as you claim in your reply.

SlipSand wrote:Got FSB up to 440 stable just over heating dammit.

all i was doing was giving you information of my own experiences as i've used 4 nf2 mobos already and 5 socketA cpus. i've had been working with these platforms and doing research on them for 3 years now. and altogether 11 years on overclocking/modding many different platforms.

i don't know you nor do i know if you're a n00b or not, but you seem to be one with this particular mobo, the NF7-S.

i'm sorry for giving you useful information and trying to let you know there are better modded bios' out there that will allow you to get into the 220~240 FSB range. changing the tRC does nothing for performance (and you meant raising the tRC not lowering the tRC will make it loose). i've had it running at 255mhz FSB down to 7 and up to 15 and it made no difference in bandwidth nor latency, but i didn't say tRC, i said tRFC which doesn't effect performance or latency if we're only talking a couple numbers diferent. i can run tRFC of 11 at 245 but at 247 i have to change it to 13 and 250 needs 16 and 260 needs 17; this is with running 11-2.0-2-2-2-12-17-4-4-5-4-3-3-5-1T @ 260mhz FSB.

since you're running two 512 double sided sticks, most people find the 1T on your mobo is unstable and changing it to 2T is stable and you can run the basic timings at 2.0-2-2-5(or10) which is better than running 2.5-3-2-11-1T. also changing the CPC from 1T to 2T only makes a 100mb/s difference and about 7nanoseconds in latency. this is nothing you will be able to see in app performance. only difference you'll see it in is the "synthetic" benchmarks. and as we all know that doesn't translate to real world performance much at all.

i thought that this was a support forum. i was supporting with knowledge gained from my own experience. if you do not want any support, than why did you make a post like this?

Hey I bought one off Ebay follow through with me and help me out with overclocking please.
Should be here tomorrow

TGM

TheGeekMistress wrote:SlipSand,
...there's also some other memory setting available like the tRC and tRFC...

Okay NF2 is best at 1T. No matter what you find go get some benchmarking utilities. I am a hardrcore gamer/ overclocker and yes it is 1T best.
2-2-2-11 is the best foudn on NF2 also. I have prooven it with my NF7 and A7N8X.

2T may be more stable but it is SLOWER. Making the numbers higher means lowering your rates which means loosening it which makes it slower in the longrun. Again do some benchmarks.

Mem and CPU are 1:1FSB is 250 so get over it. I got an OCZ DDR booster so I got higher volts.

Necromancer - One who ressurects the dead in an unholy manner.

Get real.

People........calm down......

SlipSand....TGM is trying to help....!
You posted this thread last July looking for help, Don't bite the hand that's feeding you......and stupid comments like "get real".....

If someone wants to post some benchies, we could clear things up easilly!

Last JULY
When I had a working NF2 mobo.

I dont. Useless info I am just correcting her errors and comments on timings.

SlipSand wrote:Last JULY
When I had a working NF2 mobo.

I dont. Useless info I am just correcting her errors and comments on timings.

well nice to meet you too,

you don't have correct my mistakes, i'll just correct your own. lol

TGM