Deserting INTEL for AMD :) **56k warning**

[kenc51]

I have recieved my brand spanking new DFI LANPARTY nF4 SLI-DR + X2 4400+ (2mb)

I'm in work now...and haven't had much chance to OC my cpu this week, I have spent the whole weekend "tweaking" my bios!

>>>Killswitch --> when you get your new X2 - just a heads-up the shipping bios DOESN'T SUPPORT DUAL CORE - it still boots = but you need to update your bios ;)

When I get home I will add some benchies and such..

Setup
Neopower 480W (soon to be changed)
X2 4400+
1GB OCZ Plat Rev2 / 1GB OCZ Gold (BH5)
X300se GFX (soon to be changed)
and not much else

I have noticed that my Plat rev2 ram (which has JEDEC pcb), can do 275mhz with @ 2.7v (mayby higher with some tweaks)
The Gold (BH5) will do ~230Mhz @ 2,2,2,5
I haven't swiched the jumpper for vdimm YET (You MUST unplugg your psu b4 doing this!)

I noticed that Angry_Games has made a few posts here in LR! (DFI support staff) => Thank you for a SUPER board!!!
BIG THANKS to LR and OCZ for my 3200 Gold (BH5) --> previous LR contest winner here!

[gvblake22]

That is definately a killer setup ya got started there!
What was your previous intel rig? When you get this AMD system up and running can you give us some comparisons (subjective and benchmarks) between that and your intel system?
Welcome to the other side!!

EDIT: one Q... Why are you changing out that 480w NeoPower PSU?

[FZ1]

Why are you ditching your Neopower? I ask because I have one and am getting the DFI Ultra Lanparty board with a EVGA 7800GT OC card. I think it will be enough power as long as I don't go SLI.

[kenc51]

new system is up and running since last friday
just that darn DFI bios!! easy to get basic settings up.. but once you start tweaking.. lets say keep you case open as you WILL need access tou your clear cmos jumpper LOL

The "old" system is:

P4 3.0 @ 3.6Ghz
OCZ plat rev2 @ 240 (2.5,2,2,5)
X800pro (mod to xtpe)
+
OCZ Powerstream 600W
All H2O cooled

My Gfx card is water cooled aswell, except I lost my old gfx cooler
Soo, I'm using my ocz psu with the old setup unchanged

I will keep my P4 setup until i get my new gfx card... I will move my DFI mobo into main main case when the new card comes (end of month or so)

I'm hoping Nvidia will release a 512mb version of their GTX
At least I can tweak my system until the new card arrives.. (whenever i can afford it.. I have about €100 for the rest of the month lol)

To me the Neopower is the BEST psu i ever used,, very stable and extremly quiet.. I have used antec truepower / forton blue storm / and powerstream psu's = they are all too loud, with the powerstream being the loudest

I will post some comparisons between 2,2,2,5 and 2.5,2,2,5 with INTEL and AMD.. Also some cinebench results between P4 HT and real dual core
Also some mem scores etc...
The 1 thing I noticed is that once i go over 1.4vcore my stock cooler gets very loud! --> I'll wait till the rig is under water b4 finding the X2's max!!!

Vstrom >> what CPU are you running? the DFI board needs alot of power!!! the neopower should be good enough unless you go dual core etc..

[kenc51]

system running stock
1GB OCZ 3200 Gold (b5)
LINK


1 CPU = superpi (systool)

2 CPU = superpi (systool)


Cinebench
1 cpu = 84.4sec
2 cpu = 44.9sec
Multiprocessor speedup = 1.88x

"Gentle" overclocking to come...(still on standard cooler for now)

[FZ1]

Vstrom >> what CPU are you running? the DFI board needs alot of power!!! the neopower should be good enough unless you go dual core etc..

3500+ Winchester. I'm gonna wait until next year to upgrade the processor.

[kenc51]

Vstrom >> what CPU are you running? the DFI board needs alot of power!!! the neopower should be good enough unless you go dual core etc..

3500+ Winchester. I'm gonna wait until next year to upgrade the processor.

I don't see any probs there... as i said... only if you want to go dual core (or sli)..

[kenc51]

4400+ @ 2400MHz (11x220) - 1.45v - 2,2,2,5


superpi = 1 CPU (systool)

superpi = 2 CPU (systool)

I'm keeping 1.45v as my max with this HSF, But i'll see how high it will go
I'm not testing prime95 yet! I ran 12hrs with 2 instances @ 2300 the other night... prime95 etc. can come later;)

[kenc51]

I said i would use prime95 yet but.... passed ~35mins with 2 instances of superpi

more to come
(I will stress test more when i "feel" the limit!)

[nightblood]

nice

[killswitch83]

I already knew about needing the BIOS update, Ken, but thanks for the heads-up anyways ; actually, I decided to go with a X2 3800+, and do some chip-pushing (hard OC'ing) of my own, heheheh. I plan on using Asetek's VapoChill Micro (a condensed version of the expensive VapoChill system, where the gaseous coolant is contained within the radiator). From what I've seen in a couple of reviews I was looking at, the VapoChill Micro can yield similar results to Koolance's Exos system (not the Exos 2 but the Exos it's being compared to; it isn't an Exos 2 on the cooling front, but still an awesome start for around 60 bucks). It can disperse 150W of heat, so I can do some decent OC'ing. Going to start with a great aftermarket cooling solution for my 7800GTX, and after I can afford the Exos 2, it's go time: we're talking NB, VGA, and CPU watercooling here! Considering the price constraints, and after reading the reviews, I am going with the DFI Infinity Ultra, as results are very comparable with the Lanparty UT NF4 Ultra, and the board has everything I need and nothing I don't. On VapoChill Micro, I'm going to try to push it to around 2.5 to 2.7, depending on how well the unit can hold up (I might side on the side of safety and go with 2.4, and work my way up as temps permit!). My ultimate goal, which is that of many AMD enthusiasts, is to push the chip to 3 GHz on WC. I will be going with high-flow (79 CFM) Evercool aluminum case fans, which are 120mm, to keep system temps down. Add a 600W OCZ PowerStream PSU, UV lighting and reactant sleeving, molex connectors, and UV paint, all in a Tsunami Dream silver finish case with a solid side panel, which I will mod with a starburst-like pattern (Dremel Time!!) and plexi (then again, the pattern might change, and I might have a surprise up my sleeve that would make the Mods and Admins smile, heheh), along with some extra "decor"; combine all this, and you have one hell of a system, lol (pardon the language, but anything else would be a vast understatement, lol). Like I stated in another forum, full details, photos, and of course the numbers will come soon enough....till then, I will have to keep everyone waiting, especially Ken and Blake, heheh, you know what I mean (esp you Blake ).

[FZ1]

I plan on using Asetek's VapoChill Micro (a condensed version of the expensive VapoChill system, where the gaseous coolant is contained within the radiator).

You should check out the Thermalright SI-120...looked to me to be one best cooling, quietest air cooled HSF out there. Here are a few links to reveiws:
http://www.systemcooling.com/thermalrig ... 20-01.html
http://hi-techreviews.com/reviews/SI-120/P1.htm
http://www.pcmoddingmy.com/content.php?review.307

[killswitch83]

man, I swear you guys keep finding lower and lower-priced, high-quality coolers everyday, lol. I was originally going to go with the XP-120, then I wanted WC but found it cost-prohibitive (for now, heheh), but now comparing temps with the VapoChill Micro, as well as price, looks like Thermalright comes out on top again. one thing though, what exactly do they use for cooling liquid in the SI-120? I know they said it could be something like distilled water, but considering how warm CPU's of this nature generally run, they would have to run something more resistant to burn-off, like freon (like what's in the VapoChill Micro). The noise levels look good, but I'm thinking I should go with the Delta SHE, as it keeps temps at right around the 30 degree C mark, not to mention I want a decent OC on air (around 2.4-2.7, contingent on performance when OC'ing a processor). Will definitely give that a chance, as with the VapoChill Micro, there is too much of a chance of the heatsink (evap chamber, if you want to be technical) moving around while mounting the retention plate, and I want to maximize cooling so of course I don't want to disturb the thermal material once it's applied.

oh yeah, here's the link for the VapoChill Micro:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Aset ... illMicro/4

[kenc51]

@ 2.6GHz - memory on 180MHz divider, so @ 200Mhz (haven't got to test ram YET) - 3hrs with 2x prime95 - temps stay ~50c - but hsf is @ ~5000rpm?:shock: - I uppped the vcore to the max i'm prepared to go with the retail HSF - 2.7 anyone? - we'll see ;)

Ps. the ram can do 230Mhz @ 2,,2,2,5 with 3.1v !! Mayby this stuff can do 250Mhz @ 3.4-3.5v?
If anyone wants any specific benchies done, just ask (keep in mind i have only a x300se)

[killswitch83]

You should check out the Thermalright SI-120...looked to me to be one best cooling, quietest air cooled HSF out there. Here are a few links to reveiws:
http://www.systemcooling.com/thermalrig ... 20-01.html
http://hi-techreviews.com/reviews/SI-120/P1.htm
http://www.pcmoddingmy.com/content.php?review.307

oh yeah, I definitely like what I see, and even more, I found something good to go with it, hehehehe. There's a 120mm Delta fan Systemcooling used in their review that I specifically liked: the AFB1212SHE. It puts out 152 CFM of air!!! I personally think that to be more than plenty of air for the massive HSF, lol. I had a hard time finding it, so I went to Electronic Goldmine and found it, and only for around 5 bucks too...I've heard a lot of good things about Delta fans in the past in concerns to their reliability and performance, so I figure what the hell right? It most definitely can out-do many of the other fans out on the market, but the trade-off is noise (I think it's at around 63 DBA), but to me, I can deal with the noise and plus I won't leave my system on all night, therefore it doesn't concern me

[FZ1]

I ordered the SI-120 along with the Panaflo M1A fan (it's the medium speed fan). They are supposed to be efficient but quiet fans. I will have my Zalman fan mate connected to it until I get a fan controller for the whole system...maybe Cooldrive 6?

[killswitch83]

Cooldrive is ok I guess, but I also heard the Sunbeam controllers were good too. I'm kinda torn between the two myself, but leaning more towards Sunbeam, mainly because of aesthetics, lol.

[kenc51]

All I need is my H2O setup on this chip!
I'm sure this is stable... but I can't keep it cool enough to run 2x prime95 and 3dmark


This is with TCCD, My UTT sticks can only do ~230Mhz with 3.3v (anything over 3.3v makes things worse) - the TCCD can do ~280MHz @ 2.5,3,3,5 or 290MHz @ 3,4,3,5..

[killswitch83]

The Platinum memory chips are TCCD, right? And Gold VX is BH5 (or was)? just wondering because I like the prospect of 290@ 3.4.3.5; this is 1T, right?

[kenc51]

the TCCD is OCZ plat rev2 (very old with jedec pcb, instead of brainpower)
290 is prob the max, but dropping from 2.5,3,3,5 to 3,4,3,5 for a few MHz isn't worth it with these chips! (this @ 2.7v!)
The UTT stuff is the ram I won here @ LR
It's OCZ 3200 Gold, should have been VX, but I'm not bothered (I'm sure OCZ would accept a return but I'm happy with them soo..) As far as I know it's BH5, CH5 chips go to the VX range as they can cope with higher voltage

I think I'll stick with the TCCD sticks in this rig, as the others need too much cooling.. (mayby 2x 2GB @ 250MHz There's some nice 2Gb kits coming out now )