New CPUs = New Chipset... AGAIN!

gvblake22 · Post by **gvblake22** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:20 pm

Wow, so it looks like if you want use your brand new 955x board for the new 65nm dual core chips you better THINK AGAIN!

I thought AMD making new sockets was bad, this is just getting rediculous. 955x motherboards already cost an arm and a leg, how can they keep doing this?! If I was on an intel platform I would be pretty upset...

X-Bit Labs wrote:The Presler products, which are claimed to be branded as Intel Pentium D 900-series, are expected to be clocked at 2.80GHz, 3.00GHz, 3.20GHz and 3.40GHz and use 800MHz processor system bus. The chip will have 4MB of cache in total, or 2MB per core. Intel is also projected to launch “extreme” version of the Presler for enthusiasts. The processor which is claimed to be branded Intel Pentium Extreme Edition processor 955 will operate at 3.46GHz, sport 1066MHz processor system bus, feature Intel virtualization technology and will only operate with mainboards based on Intel 975X.

InspectahACE · Post by **InspectahACE** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:36 pm

only good thing is when those new M2's come out..thats when i get my bonuses and tax returns:D hopefully the new socket kicks a$$:)

Post by **Illuminati** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:02 am

I think Intel is starting to dig themselves in a hole right now. They need to take some time and 'think ahead' when designing a chipset to allow it to work with more than one generation of processors.

I thought Intel was going to make a difference by keeping socket-775 around for a long time... but they are canceling out that selling point by changing chipsets every processor release.

I agree with you blake, this is getting rediculous. However, the benefit is that while Intel keeps hurting themselves, the customers they loose will go AMD... and that's just what AMD needs to happen!

gvblake22 · Post by **gvblake22** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:21 am

Illuminati wrote:However, the benefit is that while Intel keeps hurting themselves, the customers they loose will go AMD... and that's just what AMD needs to happen!

Very true. If you want to get a new CPU and you have to buy a new motherboard anyway, why not give AMD a try!
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Post by **dicecca112** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:57 am

blake man you gotta go over to ocforums more often, Advan and Sent told us about this in September.

Very true. If you want to get a new CPU and you have to buy a new motherboard anyway, why not give AMD a try!
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Ahh no, seeing conroe with 4mb of cache in a new architecture, if it lives up to even half the hype, I might be Intel for ever. But you never know how M2 will live up. I wanna see what they can do with DDR2. But I have a feeling that the integrated memory controller as just an AMD thing is going to be a thing of the past soon, for some reason I think Intels Conroe is gonna have that little surprise built in as well, boosting its DDR2 performance even higher. But one can only wait

gvblake22 · Post by **gvblake22** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:01 am

dicecca112 wrote:blake man you gotta go over to ocforums more often, Advan and Sent told us about this in September.

LOL, I suppose. I just haven't been into the Intel section in quite a while

I'll see if I can "diversify" more. I just saw the news story and thought I would share, I'm not big into the speculation side of things trying to figure out what something is going to do or be like months and months in advance.

gvblake22 · Post by **gvblake22** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:08 am

dicecca112 wrote:Ahh no, seeing conroe with 4mb of cache in a new architecture, if it lives up to even half the hype, I might be Intel for ever. But you never know how M2 will live up. I wanna see what they can do with DDR2. But I have a feeling that the integrated memory controller as just an AMD thing is going to be a thing of the past soon, for some reason I think Intels Conroe is gonna have that little surprise built in as well, boosting its DDR2 performance even higher. But one can only wait

Well, I think what I'm trying to say is that intel is whipping out chipsets like they are candy. A BIOS upgrade is much easier and more practical than a chipset/motherboard upgrade. If intel wants to release so many new chips on LGA 775, then at least make a chipset that will last more than one generation of processor! I understand it is a new architechture, and I am also very excited for its arrival, but I find it disturbing that a company would produce a new performance oriented chipset only to out date themselves and the chipset in what seems like only a matter of months! I just think that intel should have thought ahead a little bit and mabe tried to figure out a way to make a chipset work with both Prescott and Conroe since they are on the same socket, memory, and I/O technology.

Kerii · Post by **Kerii** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:14 pm

Well, maybe with all the talk of new GPU sockets, perhaps we might be able to see a chipset socket in the future? I don't know.

Chipsets are already very low on the profit margin, and sometimes even at a loss for the manufacturer, so I don't know if it'll be "fiscally possible", even if it might be "technically possible". Well, I can still hope can't I?

Though, if something like that were to happen, it would make the whole process of buying and building computers even more complicated. Not that I'm complaining though, I'd love for complete customization. High grade custom color PCB (who wouldn't love clear?), chipset socket, audio codec socket, LAN chip socket, onboard video socket, Rubycon capacitors, the works!

gvblake22 · Post by **gvblake22** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:16 pm

Kerii, I think you're on to something there, that would be REALLY cool! It would be like one barebones motherboard to rule them all! Is there really talk of a GPU socket?! Where would it get RAM from?

Kerii · Post by **Kerii** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:22 pm

Well, they're still in very early development, but for now it seems they're sticking with direct soldered chips, seeing as that provides better and faster connections, a vital factor for VRAM.

In ATi's case, on a PCB card. In nVidia's case, soldered directly to the motherboard, which may lead to some interesting GPU coolers. Given that you would have more room for a cooler on a motherboard mounted socket, I wouldn't doubt compatibility with existing CPU coolers, and that would be a pretty nice plus.