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D975XBX2 Shutdown/Standby Problem

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:41 pm
by qwertyasd
Hello everyone,

I recently built my first system, and happened to choose the D975XBX2 motherboard. After updating the BIOS to 2809, and installing drivers for the chipset and the rest of my components, I attempted to shut down my computer. All that happens is the two SATA hard drives spin down and presumably power off, while the motherboard and fans remain on. Anyone else encounter this problem? Any ideas on how to go about tackling this problem? So far, Intel has not been any help.

Thanks,
qwertyasd

System Specs:
Proc: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield (BX80562Q6600)
MB: Intel 975X ATX (BLKD975XBX2KR)
RAM: 4 x 1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer (BL2KIT12864AL804)
Hard Drives: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 S(T3160815AS)
Optical Drive: LITE-ON (LH-20A1L-05)
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Platinum Fatal1ty Champion Series (70SB046A00003)
Video Card: XFX GeForce 8800GT (PVT88PYDF4)
OS: Windows XP Professional SP2, plus updates.

Re: D975XBX2 Shutdown Problem

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:03 am
by ubiquityman
In BIOS, you have to set suspend mode to S3.
(It sounds like you have it set to S1)
In S3 mode, there are problems with the Marvell chipset waking up after suspend, so Intel defaults to S1.

Re: D975XBX2 Shutdown Problem

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:23 pm
by qwertyasd
Unfortunately, both S1 and S3 have the same problem. I probably should have mentioned this, but I have disabled the Marvell controller as it proved to be... unstable.

Re: D975XBX2 Shutdown Problem

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:51 pm
by ubiquityman
I have this problem on a Dell that I have.
I think when I installed the OS, it was on S1, so after changing the BIOS to S3, the "installation" was somehow stuck on S1.
To workaround this problem without reinstalling, I put the follow batch/script file in startup:

dumppo admin minsleep=s3
exit

I don't remember if I had to download the dumppo.exe program or if it was part of the OS.

Re: D975XBX2 Shutdown Problem

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:37 pm
by qwertyasd
The dumppo solution doesn't appear to work for me. Thanks for your time though.

Re: D975XBX2 Shutdown/Standby Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:50 am
by ubiquityman
is it possible you have a device connected that is preventing S3 suspend mode?

Re: D975XBX2 Shutdown/Standby Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:48 pm
by qwertyasd
I suspected this, so I went ahead and disabled "Wake from standby" for both my mouse and keyboard. No progress.

Re: D975XBX2 Shutdown/Standby Problem

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:11 pm
by ubiquityman
This is a bit tedious, but you need to go through each device in Device Manager and see what the power saving modes supported are.

Re: D975XBX2 Shutdown/Standby Problem

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:08 pm
by qwertyasd
The only devices under Device Manager that had a Power Management tab were the Mouse, Keyboard, and USB Root Hub (x 5).

USB: Allow the computer to turn this device off to save power.
Mouse & Keyboard: Allow this device to bring the computer out of standby.

I unchecked each one, to no avail.

I forgot to mention that I'm using a MIcrosoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 and a Logitech G5 mouse with the latest version of IntelliType Pro and SetPoint.

Again, thanks for taking time to help me.

Re: D975XBX2 Shutdown/Standby Problem

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:53 pm
by ubiquityman
What does DUMPPO ADMIN return on the command line for Min Sleep State?

Also, what I'm referring to in Device Manager is as follows:
Device Manager -> (Device) ->Details tab ->Property
Look at Power Capabilities and Power State Mapping in the drop down listbox.

You should see
PDCAP_D3_SUPPORTED For Power Capabilities.
S3->D3 for Power State Mapping for each device, and

Re: D975XBX2 Shutdown/Standby Problem

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:25 pm
by qwertyasd
dumppo admin output:
Admin policy overrides
Min sleep state......: S3
Max sleep state......: S4 - hibernate
Min video timeout....: 0
Max video timeout....: -1
Min spindown timeout.: 0
Max spindown timeout.: -1

Working on the Power Capabilities/State Mapping...

Re: D975XBX2 Shutdown/Standby Problem

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:05 am
by ubiquityman
How about DUMPPO AC?

My DUMPPO AC shows this:
--------------------------------
AC power policy
Power button.........: Sleep(QueryApps|UIAllowed)
Sleep button.........: Sleep(QueryApps|UIAllowed)
Lid close............: Disabled Sleep(QueryApps)
Lid open wake........: Working
Idle.................: Sleep(QueryApps)
Settings.............: Timeout=1200, Sensitivity=50
Min sleep state......: S3
Max sleep state......: S3 <----------------------------------------------- This is the key item I think
Reduced latency.sleep: S1
WinLogonFlags........: 0
Doze S4 timeout......: 0
Battery broadcast res: 3
Battery discharge 0..: No battery, but enable is set
Battery discharge 1..: No battery, but enable is set
Battery discharge 2..: Disabled
Battery discharge 3..: Disabled
Video timeout.......: 600
Hard disk timeout....: 1200
Optimize for power...: FALSE
Fan throttle toler...: 100
Forced throttle......: 100% (off)
Min throttle.........: 0%
Over throttle act....: Sleep(OverrideApps|DisableWakes|Critical)

Also, what power supply do you have?

Re: D975XBX2 Shutdown/Standby Problem

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:56 pm
by qwertyasd
dumppo ac output:
AC power policy
Power button.........: None-Code=10
Sleep button.........: None
Lid close............: Disabled None
Lid open wake........: Working
Idle.................: None
Settings.............: Timeout=0, Sensitivity=50
Min sleep state......: S3
Max sleep state......: S3
Reduced latency.sleep: S1
WinLogonFlags........: 1
Doze S4 timeout......: 0
Battery broadcast res: 3
Battery discharge 0..: No battery, but enable is set
Battery discharge 1..: No battery, but enable is set
Battery discharge 2..: Disabled
Battery discharge 3..: Disabled
Video timeout.......: 60
Hard disk timeout....: 600
Optimize for power...: TRUE
Fan throttle toler...: 100
Forced throttle......: 100% (off)
Min throttle.........: 0%
Over throttle act....: None

Power Supply: TurboLink Switching Power Supply (500W, ATX-CW500P4)
It came with the case.

Re: D975XBX2 Shutdown/Standby Problem

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:15 pm
by ubiquityman
just to be clear,
are you saying that this used to work, then after your BIOS update it didn't work?
Did you try going back to an older BIOS revision?

George

Re: D975XBX2 Shutdown/Standby Problem

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:11 pm
by qwertyasd
Actually, the first thing I did after getting all the hardware in place was to flash the BIOS to 2809. So yes, 2809 is the only version I have been using. Where might I find an older version, that might work better?

Re: D975XBX2 Shutdown/Standby Problem

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:24 am
by ubiquityman
I mistakenly thought it previously worked, then after you flashed, it stopped, but if you've never tried it with older bios, I wouldn't start now.

1) does your system appear to go into standby?
2) did all of your devices show D3/S3 capability
3) what does "DUMPPO cap" say (do a copy/paste)

I'm suspecting your power supply.

Re: D975XBX2 Shutdown/Standby Problem

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:48 pm
by qwertyasd
My system does appear to go into standby. It can not, however, come out of it.
All my devices showed D3/S3 capability.

"dumppo cap" output:

power capabilties
System power capabilties
Power Button Present....: TRUE
Sleep Button Present....: TRUE
Lid Present.............: FALSE
System states supported.: S1 S3 S4 S5
Hiber file reserved.....: FALSE
Thermal control.........: FALSE
CPU Throttle control....: TRUE
Processor min throttle..: 66
Processor trottle scale.: 100 (1%)
Some disk will spindown.: TRUE
System batteries present: FALSE
System batteries scale..: (G:0 C:0) (G:0 C:0) (G:0 C:0)
Ac on line wake ability.: Unspecified
Lid wake ability........: Unspecified
RTC wake ability........: S4 - hibernate
Min device wake.........: Unspecified
Default low latency wake: Unspecified

Re: D975XBX2 Shutdown/Standby Problem

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:20 pm
by ubiquityman
It should work. If you get a chance to try another power supply, do that.
Let me think about this one for a couple of days.

Re: D975XBX2 Shutdown/Standby Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:40 pm
by qwertyasd
I'll hunt for another power supply.
Please, take all the time you need, and thanks for the time you already contributed.

Re: D975XBX2 Shutdown/Standby Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:44 pm
by ubiquityman
Do you have a pinout for your power supply? I want to know if it has the proper 5V standby line to the motherboard. Does it have Pin9 (usually purple I think). it's supposed to be 5V all the way through, unless AC is unplugged, but I'm wondering if it doesn't have that line, does the motherboard just keep the power supply on?

Also, are the fans that stay on connected to your motherboard or are they connected directly to the power supply.
If connected to the motherboard, are the drive power connectors hot during standby?
Finally, does your power supply fans turn off?

It's possible it's not a power supply problem, but I just wanted to rule that out.