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Secret to high fsb findings for 975x/965P chipset ?

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:51 am
by eva2000
Interesting findings from P5W DH FSB wall testing http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/sho ... p?t=111400 :)

seems these findings apply to Intel D975XBX bad axe as well, loosened tRFC/tRD from 35/6 to 40/7 and increased my max 32M benchable fsb from 433fsb to 440fsb!

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Maybe all motherboard manufacturers need to do is open their bioses to the other memory timing options that memset has available so we can further fine tune how high the fsb can go ? :)

Decided to see how far i can tighten the additional timings knowing the effects tRD has on higher fsb.

Software used: Systool dual 32M Pi tests as 99.99% of time if you can pass dual Systool 32M pi you can pass Super Pi 32M.

Using the memset values for the following:

tRFC | tRD | Write to Precharge Command | Write to Read Command | Read-Write Turnaround clocks | Write-Read Turnaround clocks | tRTP

Managed to pass with following settings:
  • 440fsb = 40 | 7 | 12 | 10 | 8 | 5 | 4
  • 438fsb = 36 | 7 | 12 | 9 | 8 | 5 | 4
  • 438fsb = 35 | 7 | 12 | 10 | 8 | 5 | 4
  • 438fsb = 34 | 7 | 12 | 11 | 8 | 5 | 4
  • 438fsb = 33 | 7 | 12 | 11 | 8 | 5 | 4
  • 438fsb = 32 | 7 | 12 | 11 | 9 | 5 | 4
  • 438fsb = 30 | 7 | 12 | 11 | 9 | 5 | 4
  • 438fsb = 28 | 7 | 12 | 11 | 9 | 5 | 4
@438fsb = 28 | 7 | 12 | 11 | 9 | 5 | 4
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@438fsb = 36 | 7 | 12 | 9 | 8 | 5 | 4
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Well so far 3954mhz is max 32M.

Here's the break down of results for max 32M

@3898mhz - 9x433fsb max
with tRD at board default 6

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@3934mhz - 9x437fsb
@tRD of 7 with tRFC 28 and looser additional timings
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@3934mhz - 9x437fsb
@tRD of 7 with tRFC 32 and tighter additional timings
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@3954mhz - 9x439fsb
@tRD of 7 with tRFC 36 and additional timings needed for 439fsb
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Couldn't get 32M @440fsb for now probably more tweaking needed or more vcore/mch volts.

But here's 8M
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All 32M times run from same session of windows, so probably not optimal for fastest times yet :)

So by playing with tRD and tRFC and additional timings, I managed to increase my max fsb from 432-433fsb to 439-440fsb :D

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:28 pm
by DMB2000uk
well most of that is beyond my knowledge, but looks like your having fun :P
What strap are you using for the FSB 1066 or 1333? The Intel boards tend to relax internal timings on the latter strap, so using the 1066 strap and upping the FSB helps performance, though im not sure if that limits the maximum overclock.

Dan

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:09 pm
by kenc51
Nice work!!! Thanks (as always) for your wisdom! It's really appreciated!

All we need now is some bios support.

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:12 am
by eva2000
thanks guys.. it's all done on 1067fsb strap :)