P-M Vs. P4

xx108nr · Post by **xx108nr** » Wed May 11, 2005 8:56 pm

what speed would a P-M 2.13ghZ Processor be eqiivalent to a P4 processor?

conspectumortis · Post by **conspectumortis** » Wed May 11, 2005 9:10 pm

With dual channel support (only in games and a few applications):

Pentium M 2,13 is a little bit faster than a P4 3,7Ghz EE or a P4 3,8Ghz.

xx108nr · Post by **xx108nr** » Wed May 11, 2005 9:21 pm

how do u know this exactly? do u have proof?

-mogwai · Post by **-mogwai** » Wed May 11, 2005 9:22 pm

whoa, are you for real?

infinitevalence · Post by **infinitevalence** » Wed May 11, 2005 9:26 pm

http://www.legitreviews.com/article.php?aid=181&pid=5

if you look at the super pi an P-4 3.6 is 1 sec slower than a P-M 2.13, in several of the other tests i would estimate that its roughly equivilent to a 3.4 P4

Pongi · Post by **Pongi** » Wed May 11, 2005 11:07 pm

http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content ... 479&page=7

Granted they probably didn't use the fastest memory or the best timings on the P4 system but it's probably pretty close ( I don't have any experience with DDR2)

But you can see how well the Pentium M 770 is doing even with DDR333 single-channel (855)

-mogwai · Post by **-mogwai** » Thu May 12, 2005 4:11 am

holy crap! that spanks the fx-55 because it costs a few hundred less and outperforms it when overclocked. that's pretty awesome.

Pongi · Post by **Pongi** » Thu May 12, 2005 7:17 am

audiophile wrote:holy crap! that spanks the fx-55 because it costs a few hundred less and outperforms it when overclocked. that's pretty awesome.

Well sorta, They used 3-3-3 timings @ DDR400 on the Athlon64 platform, which probably didn't help it too much

Though I think they were trying to "even out the playing field" (P-M w/DDR333 vs A64 w/DDR400) . But even then as you can see it's still pretty competitive. And at a lot less power too. (A few pages back GamePC measures both idle and peak power consumption on all platforms)

conspectumortis · Post by **conspectumortis** » Thu May 12, 2005 9:31 am

xx108nr wrote:how do u know this exactly? do u have proof?

I have a Pentium M System since 6 months and i make the first user-review in germany with the Asus CT479 in our forums .

You can look at the benches that were posted by Pongi,too.

xx108nr · Post by **xx108nr** » Thu May 12, 2005 5:49 pm

the pentium m 2.18ghZ preforms eqivalent to a P-4 3.4 or 3.6 overclocked or not over clocked?

infinitevalence · Post by **infinitevalence** » Thu May 12, 2005 6:03 pm

Not overclocked

Topher · Post by **Topher** » Thu May 12, 2005 9:38 pm

I'm not surprised. I suppose it calculates multiple instructions per clock cycle? Unlike the 1 instruction per clock cycle of the P4.

That's how AMD has been able to create CPUs running just as fast as P4 at lower MHz.

-mogwai · Post by **-mogwai** » Fri May 13, 2005 5:45 am

i thought it had to do with amd running less pipes than intel cpus...

Pongi · Post by **Pongi** » Fri May 13, 2005 3:56 pm

audiophile wrote:i thought it had to do with amd running less pipes than intel cpus...

Well a shorter pipeline at least. Pipeline stalls, branch mis-predictions, pipeline flushes, and cache misses are less costly on a shorter instruction pipeline. I'm no expert on the matter, but you can read up on pipelining it at http://www.arstechnica.com

Zinn2b · Post by **Zinn2b** » Mon May 16, 2005 12:18 am

Guys I was just reading at Anand techs forum I can't post there I am banned. They have a Thread in the cpu section Called Intel panics announces Merom. There is this woman there Called Intelia doing a very good job of waving the PM flag . But there ganging up on her pretty good . Needs some support from PM supporters. Get over there and help here out.

infinitevalence · Post by **infinitevalence** » Mon May 16, 2005 12:33 am

there are manythings i want to do with my life, but hang out at anandtech forums... no thanks.

Zinn2b · Post by **Zinn2b** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:12 am

I have just ordered a new custom case from mountain mods. pretty cool made the way I want it. A yonah cpu is going to perform well in this case .
Water cooled system with chiller from Raid computers.
Dual Raptors.
I am hoping that DDR2 2 2 2 5 will be here with the release of yonah.

Sata optical drives

But what I really want is Conroe in this case but I well play with yonah till Conroe . Than I well use Yonah as a media center for my wife.

ELIK18 · Post by **ELIK18** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:38 pm

P-M is great in OC and it can defeat FX-57 in some games...