SourceNow researchers at Intel, RTI International of North Carolina, and Arizona State University have shown that it's possible to build an efficient microrefrigerator that can target hot spots on chips, saving power and space, and more effectively cooling the entire system. Their work also demonstrates, for the first time, that it is possible to integrate thermoelectric material into chip packaging, making the technology more practical than ever before. A paper detailing the research was just published in Nature Nanotechnology.
"People have been talking about using high-efficiency thermoelectric materials for cooling hot spots on chips for years," says Intel manager Ravi Prasher. He says that part of the reason he and his colleagues were able to succeed is because they used a material that has shown exceptional thermal properties, and they relied on Intel's knowledge of chip packaging to build an integrated thermoelectric system that was engineered to fit within the confines of a chip's housing.
Intel Cooling Chips with Thermoelectrics
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Re: Intel Cooling Chips with Thermoelectrics
Is intel starting to be thermal limited for clock speeds again or something?
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Dunno, I wonder if this will up the costs of their cpus? 

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I wonder where they got the gold-plated dime!
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Re: Intel Cooling Chips with Thermoelectrics
It is more efficient to cool a 25mm^2 area than to cool the entire inside of a computer... something like this makes far more sense than IBM's approach of designing water channels through the die itself and pumping water through it. LinkDMB2000uk wrote:Is intel starting to be thermal limited for clock speeds again or something?
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It might even be cheaper to built a few of those into a CPU in order to cut down the size of the accompanying cooler, something Intel has long since done already with their cooler sizes. From what I've read heat has a much higher impact on memory controller frequency than on the core circuitry as well.
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Re: Intel Cooling Chips with Thermoelectrics
TEC's still output just as much heat as they take away on the cold side. So it's not like you are magically getting rid of all the CPU heat in the rest of the case.
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Re: Intel Cooling Chips with Thermoelectrics
exactly. a watt is a watt no matter what you do to it

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Re: Intel Cooling Chips with Thermoelectrics
Doh.DMB2000uk wrote:TEC's still output just as much heat as they take away on the cold side. So it's not like you are magically getting rid of all the CPU heat in the rest of the case.
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Okay, just ignore me. I know how a TEC works so I don't know what I was thinking there...
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Still, chilling parts of a core such as the IMCs (or uncore for i7) would allow better IMC clockrates from what I've read before. I've seen some uncore performance scaling tests on an original Phenom (at Madshrimps) and between raising the memory speeds, HT Link speed, NB speed, and Core frequency, the NB frequency had the second largest impact on performance only to the core frequency. As both Core i7 and Phenom 2 run the NB / uncore at reduced frequencies, there is plenty of "room" left to go before they reach frequency parity with the cores. Due to heat and/or other reasons the uncore / NB frequency still doesn't overclock nearly as far as the CPU itself.
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