No more GHz

LVCapo · Post by **LVCapo** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 10:46 am

Has anyone seen the new labeling system brought out by Intel? Evidentally they will no longer be referred to as a "3.4 GHz" etc, everything will be a 520 or 530 or 540 series.... great, just something else to confuse people, but I guess its no worse than an A or C or E or EE??!!!!

Post by **Apoptosis** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 12:51 pm

yeah... I'm writing about the naming schemes right now for the article...

Upcoming CPU's

P4 Line:

560 - LGA 775 3.6GHz
550 - LGA 775 3.4GHz
540 - LGA 775 3.2GHz
530 - LGA 775 3.0GHz
520 - LGA 775 2.8GHz

Celeron D Line:

335 - LGA 775 & mPGA 478 2.8GHz
330 - mPGA 478 2.66GHz
325 - mPGA 478 2.53GHz

Existing CPU's & Upcoming Socket 478 CPU's

Pentium 4 4.0GHz 90nm - 580
Pentium 4 3.8GHz 90nm - 570
Pentium 4 M 3.6GHz 90nm 533MHz - 558
Pentium 4 3.6GHz 90nm 800MHz - 560
Pentium 4 M 3.46GHz 90nm 533MHz - 552
Pentium 4 3.4GHz 90nm 800MHz - 550
Pentium 4 3.2GHz 90nm 800MHz - 540
Pentium 4 M 3.2GHz 90nm 533MHz - 538
Pentium 4 M 3.06GHz 90nm 533MHz - 532
Pentium 4 3.0GHz 90nm 800MHz - 530
Pentium 4 2.8GHz 90nm 800MHz - 520
Pentium 4 M 2.8GHz 90nm 533MHz - 518

okay...you get the idea and I'm tired of typing...

I think this is much worse initially than the A, C, E, EE naming schemes....

LVCapo · Post by **LVCapo** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 1:12 pm

Maybe in the long run it might work out better. But I see them trying to put less emphasis on speeds, and more emphasis on what they can actually do (if that makes sense).
I first read about this new naming scheme a couple of months ago, but didn't see it in practice until this last week.
What is Intel trying to do? Other than win back some people from AMD... I think they are going about it all wrong.
Have fun writing that article!!!!

Post by **Apoptosis** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 1:19 pm

you call this fun? Intel dropped the ball on this launch as far as getting product and info to reviwers in time.

Many reviewers got everything during the last few days... meaning they have less than a week to look at the new PSU, PCIe, LGA775, cooling, chipsets, DDR2 memory, naming scheme, and all the new little features. I'll publish an article, but I think it will start off by saying Intel just re-invented the PC. I bet the major OEM's are up in arms right about now.

LVCapo · Post by **LVCapo** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 1:21 pm

No bud, I was being sarcastic. Sorry, I know you are probably tired from your long week and trying to get caught up on everything. I'm in the process of building my own website dedicated to cooling and experimenting, nothing special, just something to do.

Post by **Apoptosis** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 1:28 pm

oh I know you were

T-Shirt · Post by **T-Shirt** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:34 am

This has to be one of the worst ideas ever/yet.
now we have a confusing number, which demands you whip out your magic decoder ring to determine what you are buying, and what you need to go with it.
and if the number is somehow actually related to performance does that mean a 580 on a 478 beats a 560 on a 775? and which 560 are you buying?
Pentium 4 3.6GHz 90nm 800MHz - 560
or a
560 - LGA 775 3.6GHz
I can see alot of problems arising from this

kalmark · Post by **kalmark** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:57 am

And this definitely kills the ability to "compare" AMD with Intel at a glance...Before, if you were looking at a 2500+ Barton, you could guess, that it has a performance comparable to a 2.5GHz P4. (I know this is just a bad approximation, but generally it's okay, more or less).
You will not be able to do this anymore that easily, unless AMD implements a new naming scheme too

AMD 560+ maybe?

infinitevalence · Post by **infinitevalence** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:29 am

Well one thing i do like about all this is the fact that intel is no longer saying a Mhz is a Mhz, they have for a long time been using that trick to get people to buy the celeron and not buy amd, when in fact the IPC of the P4 has always been lower than the IPC of the P3 and AMD. I also think that after a little while we will get used to the numbering scheme and wonder how we ever kept track before.