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Overclocking the Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Processor??? help...

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I have an Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Processor...
and i realy whant to try clocking it...
any advice. i see there is an article here. but there is one thing it dosent
mention... the temperature. after. idle temp?
and the durability of the processor after the overclock from 1,86 to 2,22 GHz
will it be stable?
and does it shorten the processor`s lifetime or something ?
cuz i see that it`s a large overclock,
but id like to try if someone could give me the green light for it.
and is it worth it ?

hints and tips please :|
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What motherboard do you have, the quality of the motherboard will determine the stability of the overclock to a point.

To test for stability on your new overclock, download and run two copies of stressprime2004 for hours. If this doesn't error, then you have a stable overclock. But I think that you should be OK with the 'small' amount that you are overclocking to.

To monitor temperatures of your processor, download coretemp beta. That is regarded as an accurate monitor for the 'real' temperature of your cores.

Also what RAM do you have, with the overclock of your FSB your RAM will be inadvertently overclocked too. Your FSB will need to be 317Mhz, so the RAM will have to be either overclocked/underclocked depending on what type of RAM you have and how good it is.

The higher temperature will definitely shorten the life of your product, but unless you are planning to keep your PC for 5 years plus (probably more), you wont see any negative side effects of this.

I would recommend a maximum load temperature of the CPU (both cores @100%) of around 70oC. The idle temp wont really matter as it will be well below this (presuming you have good case ventilation).

I would say that it would be worth the boost in speed to overclock your CPU.

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Post by Yapa »

Good question, I think there will be many like this to come as many budget owners are getting the e6300 and trying to oc it to get more performance.

My pc is on order and I'm still to get it, but it has an e6300 too.

I've been reading every bit of info I can on oc the cpu.

As posted above, you will need a good mb which can support high fsb, and good memory.

I have gone with an ASUS P5L 1394, which can increment the FSB to 450. My ram is Kingston Value Ram though, 533 mhz, so I will most linkely be stopped at around 400fsb by the ram. (400x1.3333 = 533mhz)

How far can I oc the ram? 600mhz? 566? I would be very happy with 400fsb, but more would be sweet :D

I know you also have to increase voltage at some stage, but not sure when? is it when the pc starts to crash with a high fsb and you up the voltage to get it higher or stable?

Any info appreciated, thanks.

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thank you for the info...
i can`t give you any detailed info about my pc right now.
since im away... but i can come back to it to the weekend.
but i can tell you that i have 1gb ram. nvidia 7600gs 256,
4 stock fan`S in my computer.. one for the power suply. one for my video card, one that blows on my processor (tube from the casing). and the last one is for sending in air to the case... my temp is now on about 57oC when i play cod2...
so my question is, do you think it would be enough cooling?
or should i replace them (water cooling in the processor?) or is it enough

and when i clock it, should i do it step by step ?
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since you are new to overclocking when you go to try it out for the first time I suggest doing it slow and steady. Go get a pint of your favorite brew or a couple sodas and start increasing the front side bus 10MHz at a time from the default setting. Eventually you will get to a point where the system is not stable. I usually run Super Pi (download link) to 1 or 4 million places to see if the system is stable enough to run that application and crunch the right numbers. If the system is unstable it will not be able to finish the calculation and you know to reduce the front side bus. This is the simplest way to overclock.

Once you find the max overclock you can go back into the BIOS and start adjusting things like the memory divider. You could lower the memory divider and then try to keep overclocking to push the front side bus even higher.

With the core 2 duo E6300 you will not need to reduce the multiplier as I was able to run mine at 7 x 445MHz with no problems. I also know that brian here on the forums got his to 7 x 480MHz, so they can go really high on the front side bus on the right motherboard. We used the Gigabyte DS3 and ABIT AW9D-MAX to hit those numbers and used water cooling. With air cooling at stock voltages you should be able to hit between 340-380FSB with ease.

A word of caution... By testing heat sinks I know that running 7 x 400MHz at 1.4125V on the core of the processor is too much for the default heatsink and cooling fan that comes from Intel. If you run the stock 1.325V and are able to hit 380MHz-400MHz FSB you should be fine, but be sure to make sure the temps don't get over 80C.

I'm sure you are confused a bit, but dozens of people here on the forums have the E6300 processor and overclocked it, so we will walk you through it.
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it`s no need for me to reach more than 2,7 GHz.
i think that would work fine for me, since it`s my first time.
id rather try overclocking it more later, since im low on the cash at the time :P
so on friday i`ll try posting more specs about my computer. (if it`s any help)
you see it`s not a spesific brand, more like a cutom. and i don`t
remember the detailed spec`s, like the motherboard and RAM and so on...

and how do i gain full control over the BIOS.
so the stock fan from intel should be replaced ?
does anyone have any recomendations?
i hope it`s good enough with an air fan. cuz im don`t like the water :P
and it`s to expencive at the time for me i think

thank you guys for helping.
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I highly suggest reading this article that I posted last week on several different heat sinks for Core 2 Duo. I personally tested my Intel E6300 on each and every one of these heat sinks, so the temperature chart is spot on. This chart is with the CPU overclocked with a multiplier of 7 and a front side bus of 400MHz, which means the system is running 7 x 400 = 2.8GHz

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The retail boxed fan from Intel is on the bottom as 'Intel Reference'. As you can tell upgrading to the Thermaltake Big Typhoon VX improved idle temperatures by 16C and kept load temps under 70C, which is a HUGE difference. If you overclock your system and want to leave it overclocked I'd suggest upgrading your fan. Other than cooling the processor better they are really quiet. The Thermaltake Big Typhoon VX is 16dBA -- basically silent.

To gain full control over your BIOS you have to enter it when the system posts by hitting delete or a function key like f1 or f2 when the system posts.

The Thermaltake Big Typhoon VX can be found for $46 here.
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thank you

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thank you for the stats :)

so if i go for the Thermaltake BigTyp 120 VX CL-P0310-01
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.asp?sku=328057

i should be fine if i overclock
to 2,7??? (temperature wise, or does it also depend on the motherboard)

and if im not wrong it is an 775 socket. so it shoulld fit ? ?

and about the BIOS.
you said press escape. that i understand. and have done it a lot of times :P
but i read in the article on the front page.
that i needed to change something on the motherboard to gain full access, so i could change the default values on the FSB and so on ?
and if it is so. is this possible on every motherboard...
i did not understand that part so good.
sorry for the trouble mates :P
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help? :roll:
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ijin wrote:thank you for the stats :)

so if i go for the Thermaltake BigTyp 120 VX CL-P0310-01
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.asp?sku=328057

i should be fine if i overclock
to 2,7??? (temperature wise, or does it also depend on the motherboard)

and if im not wrong it is an 775 socket. so it shoulld fit ? ?

and about the BIOS.
you said press escape. that i understand. and have done it a lot of times :P
but i read in the article on the front page.
that i needed to change something on the motherboard to gain full access, so i could change the default values on the FSB and so on ?
and if it is so. is this possible on every motherboard...
i did not understand that part so good.
sorry for the trouble mates :P
The Thermaltake Big Typhoon VX will handle up to a 3GHz overclock with no problem at all. If money is tight you can try the Big Typhoon as it costs less than the Big Typhoon VX and the only differences are the mounting bracket and the fan. The Big Typhoon VX has an easy to install mount and a variable speed fan.

Start out by changing the default values on the FSB and you'll be good to go. Just remember to start slow and take your time.
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Post by rackers »

Sound, I'm looking to go along the same lines, I don't mind forking out a little extra for that fan as I want to overlock to around 2.7GHZ. :)
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thank you guys...

lots of good help here :D

i have already purchased my fan, i hope it goes well.

but i have a question about the BIOS, nobody has answered me yet.

do i have full access when i enter the BIOS for the first time, or do i have to make some changes to my motherboard so i can gain full access ?
i read something about here in the LR forum. (refering to this [url]http://www.legitreviews.com/article/380/3/[url]

cuz i have no clue

does anyone know? :roll: :shock: :(
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It all depends on your board

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It all depends on your mother board.

I am running at 2.45 with a E6300

P5W DH Deluxe
E6300
2048 firestick
74 raptor
160 SATA
1600XT
ZALMAN 9500

Clocked at
350Mhz
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But when I was using a Abit AB9 Pro I really had no luck with overclocking the system would hang everytime. I would reset the CMOS.
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