P4 2.8e and asus P4P800-deluxe problems
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P4 2.8e and asus P4P800-deluxe problems
Hey guys. I'm new to the forums but im having a bit of a problem. i am looking into overclocking my 2.8e but my idle temps are around 42C.I am currently running a Zalman CNPS-7000CU and this seems a little high to me. any advice would be greatly apreciated.
Welcome to the forums Ihulsey!
Actually your temps are just about right considering the Prescott CPU you are using, along with the Zalman HSF, which is decent, but nowhere near as good as the Thermalright SP-94, or the Thermalright XP-120, two of the best socket 478 coolers. Understand that the P4 "E"s are notoriously hot burning CPUs, I have seen idle temps as high as 47-49 depending on the circumstances and the motherboard you are using. You have to understand that the Prescott is a 90 nm technology, and even though the die shrink was from 130nm to 90nm, the Prescott actually consumes more power than the Northwood chip it was supposed to replace, so by drawing more power and being smaller, the Prescott has some serious thermal issues.
Before anything else, give us all the vital information on your system (CPU, MOBO, RAM, VIDEO CARD< CASE, PSU, etc), whenever helping someone solve a problem or get the most out of their system, this information makes all the difference
I would only recommend O/Cing on air with the Thermalright or similar HSF, but even then keeping an eye on your temps. If you want to get the most out of the CPU, and are serious about O/Cing, i would recommend water, what was once an expensive and complicated cooling solution has become a decently priced and very easily maintained cooling solution. A simple external kit like Corsair's Hydrocool or an internal kit from companies like Swiftech, Danger Den, or PolarFLO would be great.
Regardless of what cooling you use for you processor, realize that it isn't the only part of your system affected by the heat generated from O/Cing. your northbridge chipset and the mosfets on your motherboard will need cooling, as most likely will your video card. another thing to consider is that while alot of boards will say "Prescott Ready", they in fact were not designed for the Prscotts ans sometimes burn up, but in using an ASUS board you are probably fine.
Take your time, and don't be afraid to ask for help, these boards are full of very friendly and knowledgeable people who are here to help.
Actually your temps are just about right considering the Prescott CPU you are using, along with the Zalman HSF, which is decent, but nowhere near as good as the Thermalright SP-94, or the Thermalright XP-120, two of the best socket 478 coolers. Understand that the P4 "E"s are notoriously hot burning CPUs, I have seen idle temps as high as 47-49 depending on the circumstances and the motherboard you are using. You have to understand that the Prescott is a 90 nm technology, and even though the die shrink was from 130nm to 90nm, the Prescott actually consumes more power than the Northwood chip it was supposed to replace, so by drawing more power and being smaller, the Prescott has some serious thermal issues.
Before anything else, give us all the vital information on your system (CPU, MOBO, RAM, VIDEO CARD< CASE, PSU, etc), whenever helping someone solve a problem or get the most out of their system, this information makes all the difference
I would only recommend O/Cing on air with the Thermalright or similar HSF, but even then keeping an eye on your temps. If you want to get the most out of the CPU, and are serious about O/Cing, i would recommend water, what was once an expensive and complicated cooling solution has become a decently priced and very easily maintained cooling solution. A simple external kit like Corsair's Hydrocool or an internal kit from companies like Swiftech, Danger Den, or PolarFLO would be great.
Regardless of what cooling you use for you processor, realize that it isn't the only part of your system affected by the heat generated from O/Cing. your northbridge chipset and the mosfets on your motherboard will need cooling, as most likely will your video card. another thing to consider is that while alot of boards will say "Prescott Ready", they in fact were not designed for the Prscotts ans sometimes burn up, but in using an ASUS board you are probably fine.
Take your time, and don't be afraid to ask for help, these boards are full of very friendly and knowledgeable people who are here to help.
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capper speaks from experience, so take note. He has pushed the p4e hard and taken the time to tame the heat issues. Like he said your in a good thermal range now for average operation, if you want to go more you will need to look at highend air (loud) or water (high inital cost) to keep it cool and not risk frying your cpu/mobo.
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i used to have the same setup until just recently. as long as you stay under 55-60 degrees under full load you should be ok. like capper said, the prescots run hot. real hot. but it's ok as long as you keep it under control. it should idle under 50. if not, you need to look into a better cooling solution. for example, i have a 1/2" water setup and with that CPU at 3.6ghz i was around 42 degrees max at full load on the processor. but it varies depending on outside temps, etc.